1 00:00:04,010 --> 00:00:01,670 this program is brought to you by the 2 00:00:07,340 --> 00:00:04,020 genesis communications network a world 3 00:00:19,370 --> 00:00:07,350 leader in talk radio since 1998 visit 4 00:00:19,380 --> 00:00:31,950 [Music] 5 00:00:39,330 --> 00:00:35,200 you're in the para cast the gold 6 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:39,340 standard of paranormal radio now here's 7 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:44,930 Jean Steiner well Chris is feeling a 8 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:46,370 little bit under the weather is you'll 9 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:49,730 notice when he starts talking so we're 10 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:51,890 gonna try to keep his participation in 11 00:00:56,770 --> 00:00:54,890 this episode at the minimum now when I 12 00:00:59,410 --> 00:00:56,780 met up with you at the International UFO 13 00:01:03,670 --> 00:00:59,420 conference you had that was a nebulizer 14 00:01:06,249 --> 00:01:03,680 or something I'm sorry to hear that 15 00:01:09,219 --> 00:01:06,259 can you give us briefly though some 16 00:01:13,300 --> 00:01:09,229 reactions to the event did you see any 17 00:01:15,639 --> 00:01:13,310 really interesting lectures no I was too 18 00:01:21,130 --> 00:01:15,649 busy Manning the book table that I was 19 00:01:23,740 --> 00:01:21,140 helping David and Jennifer run I saw a 20 00:01:26,380 --> 00:01:23,750 little bit of who who was it I did walk 21 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:26,390 in on one thing I really wanted to see 22 00:01:33,070 --> 00:01:30,170 Greg Bishop John Alexander Ernst Rand it 23 00:01:35,830 --> 00:01:33,080 was the scientists from the has Dahlan 24 00:01:38,830 --> 00:01:35,840 project I must say it was it was a 25 00:01:40,270 --> 00:01:38,840 fairly impressive list of speakers this 26 00:01:44,589 --> 00:01:40,280 year I think every year it's getting 27 00:01:47,740 --> 00:01:44,599 better of course you had I don't know 28 00:01:49,949 --> 00:01:47,750 you von Smith won the Lifetime 29 00:01:52,690 --> 00:01:49,959 Achievement Award I did not see her 30 00:01:55,749 --> 00:01:52,700 presentation why would she win a 31 00:01:58,930 --> 00:01:55,759 Lifetime Achievement Award because she's 32 00:02:02,020 --> 00:01:58,940 counseled abductees and contactees for 33 00:02:06,150 --> 00:02:02,030 so long and and I guess it was a woman's 34 00:02:10,749 --> 00:02:06,160 turn this year Tom DeLonge one 35 00:02:12,490 --> 00:02:10,759 investigator of the year which a lot of 36 00:02:15,850 --> 00:02:12,500 people were not very happy about that 37 00:02:19,290 --> 00:02:15,860 of course Tom DeLonge is the ex Qataris 38 00:02:22,839 --> 00:02:19,300 for the Punky new wave band blink-182 39 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:22,849 you know since he's kind of put his toe 40 00:02:28,119 --> 00:02:25,010 into the you Falah djegal fray 41 00:02:29,970 --> 00:02:28,129 he claims that there's two generals in 42 00:02:33,550 --> 00:02:29,980 the Air Force that are helping him 43 00:02:35,589 --> 00:02:33,560 expose the UFO cover-up and in other 44 00:02:37,430 --> 00:02:35,599 things I'm not really sure what he says 45 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:37,440 they're actually doing but 46 00:02:45,050 --> 00:02:40,650 I think the powers that be found their 47 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:45,060 latest dupe and Nia fight he wasn't 48 00:02:50,060 --> 00:02:47,010 there at the conference he sent in a 49 00:02:54,110 --> 00:02:50,070 video acceptance of his award and at one 50 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:54,120 point he said that I've read all the UFO 51 00:02:58,730 --> 00:02:56,610 books so I know everything stop a sec 52 00:03:00,740 --> 00:02:58,740 and he said he ran all the UFO books 53 00:03:04,370 --> 00:03:00,750 yeah I read all my books so I know 54 00:03:07,610 --> 00:03:04,380 everything quote-unquote I was sitting 55 00:03:11,660 --> 00:03:07,620 at a table with Greg Bishop David 56 00:03:14,930 --> 00:03:11,670 Weatherly John Alexander who else you 57 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:14,940 know some pretty bright people and uh we 58 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:17,730 bought at once it was terrible 59 00:03:22,850 --> 00:03:20,010 I was sitting in that table with you 60 00:03:25,730 --> 00:03:22,860 know some pretty smart people and and we 61 00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:25,740 all had an involuntary synchronized 62 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:27,930 guffawed like we couldn't believe what 63 00:03:35,510 --> 00:03:32,730 we heard and I you know a bit of a 64 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:35,520 hitter winner around the room not not 65 00:03:40,220 --> 00:03:38,330 big enough as far as I'm concerned so 66 00:03:44,660 --> 00:03:40,230 you know I don't know what to make of 67 00:03:48,949 --> 00:03:44,670 this guy he he's obviously has an 68 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:48,959 immense ego I think he's he's possibly 69 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:52,050 attended workshops given by the likes of 70 00:03:58,760 --> 00:03:56,130 Steven Greer and possibly a Steven 71 00:04:03,949 --> 00:03:58,770 Bassett so therefore he's that 72 00:04:05,750 --> 00:04:03,959 contemporary of Sean Korea yeah yeah you 73 00:04:10,729 --> 00:04:05,760 could kind of say that although bad 74 00:04:14,090 --> 00:04:10,739 analogy I think there's a snowball's 75 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:14,100 chance in hell first of all I'm 76 00:04:19,010 --> 00:04:16,650 surprised that two generals would even 77 00:04:20,840 --> 00:04:19,020 give him the time of day let alone bring 78 00:04:24,290 --> 00:04:20,850 him in on some cosmic top secret 79 00:04:26,630 --> 00:04:24,300 information it just absolutely is it 80 00:04:28,370 --> 00:04:26,640 sounds ludicrous to me and the fact that 81 00:04:31,370 --> 00:04:28,380 people are taking this guy seriously and 82 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:31,380 actually awarding him for doing nothing 83 00:04:37,580 --> 00:04:34,650 I mean what has he done he's just you 84 00:04:39,710 --> 00:04:37,590 know made a lot of promises saying well 85 00:04:42,170 --> 00:04:39,720 I know what's going on and at some point 86 00:04:45,860 --> 00:04:42,180 I will tell you and it's like it's it's 87 00:04:49,820 --> 00:04:45,870 so gray like it it's actually kind of 88 00:04:50,700 --> 00:04:49,830 scary so I'm I'm not holding my my 89 00:04:52,740 --> 00:04:50,710 breath and I don't 90 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:52,750 we should all be holding our collective 91 00:04:58,980 --> 00:04:56,530 breasts about about this guy he he 92 00:05:04,610 --> 00:04:58,990 obviously really is wet-behind-the-ears 93 00:05:08,670 --> 00:05:04,620 and it's that I don't really see any 94 00:05:10,260 --> 00:05:08,680 anything solid coming from it even 95 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:10,270 though he was mentioned and Podesta 96 00:05:15,510 --> 00:05:12,970 emails and and stuff I think he's 97 00:05:18,060 --> 00:05:15,520 surrounded himself with a lot of true 98 00:05:20,270 --> 00:05:18,070 believer types that are so myopic they 99 00:05:23,310 --> 00:05:20,280 really they've lost their sense of 100 00:05:26,330 --> 00:05:23,320 reality to be true to it to be honest 101 00:05:28,530 --> 00:05:26,340 about this subject at least 102 00:05:30,990 --> 00:05:28,540 unfortunately that happens all too often 103 00:05:32,670 --> 00:05:31,000 do you think part of that is frustration 104 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:32,680 though that you know we really aren't 105 00:05:36,690 --> 00:05:34,330 making that much progress towards 106 00:05:38,250 --> 00:05:36,700 understanding what UFOs are so if 107 00:05:42,300 --> 00:05:38,260 someone comes out there another person 108 00:05:46,110 --> 00:05:42,310 yet another individual saying I have the 109 00:05:47,610 --> 00:05:46,120 answer that attracts people well he's 110 00:05:49,860 --> 00:05:47,620 not saying he has the answer he's saying 111 00:05:52,910 --> 00:05:49,870 that he is in contact with people that 112 00:05:56,270 --> 00:05:52,920 have the answer okay he's well-connected 113 00:05:59,360 --> 00:05:56,280 the same thing there's a big difference 114 00:06:02,150 --> 00:05:59,370 he's not claiming to have any answers 115 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:02,160 okay but the guys got some he's got some 116 00:06:09,300 --> 00:06:05,170 he's got some moxie and he's got some a 117 00:06:11,060 --> 00:06:09,310 little bit of cachet I understand 118 00:06:13,980 --> 00:06:11,070 Jacques Vallee is writing the foreword 119 00:06:16,740 --> 00:06:13,990 to his new book and Jacques fillet is 120 00:06:18,750 --> 00:06:16,750 also going to be a speaker and contact 121 00:06:23,270 --> 00:06:18,760 in the desert that's the latest rumor 122 00:06:27,900 --> 00:06:23,280 I've heard which is rather disconcerting 123 00:06:31,110 --> 00:06:27,910 if it's true well I mean it's the last 124 00:06:34,260 --> 00:06:31,120 contact in the desert yeah thing I've 125 00:06:36,780 --> 00:06:34,270 got I get these things yeah I'm looking 126 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:36,790 at the speaker schedule here and I get 127 00:06:44,190 --> 00:06:41,410 these things a couple of times a day I 128 00:06:47,310 --> 00:06:44,200 get I'm on the list twice I think so 129 00:06:51,450 --> 00:06:47,320 let's let's take a look here okay right 130 00:06:54,300 --> 00:06:51,460 share lectures sensational lectures okay 131 00:06:56,940 --> 00:06:54,310 let's let's take a look here at a hot 132 00:07:02,190 --> 00:06:56,950 panel debate Oh 133 00:07:04,430 --> 00:07:02,200 Steven Greer Linda Mountain how David 134 00:07:07,500 --> 00:07:04,440 Wilcock 135 00:07:08,670 --> 00:07:07,510 everybody's favorite line o-genki 136 00:07:10,620 --> 00:07:08,680 okay so let's take a look at the 137 00:07:14,490 --> 00:07:10,630 speakers here okay 138 00:07:16,710 --> 00:07:14,500 looking at the speakers I'm trying to 139 00:07:18,950 --> 00:07:16,720 look a set spectacular lectures but when 140 00:07:22,590 --> 00:07:18,960 I click on it I just see the same two 141 00:07:24,180 --> 00:07:22,600 speaker meet-and-greet okay so let's see 142 00:07:28,580 --> 00:07:24,190 what speakers we could meet and greet 143 00:07:31,650 --> 00:07:28,590 here it's George Noory so of course 144 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:31,660 everything centered around him I'm 145 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:36,490 trying to look at one full list of all 146 00:07:44,910 --> 00:07:41,970 the speakers from this particular oh 147 00:07:46,470 --> 00:07:44,920 here we go I got speakers list here okay 148 00:07:50,850 --> 00:07:46,480 here's his speaker's list let's take a 149 00:07:53,340 --> 00:07:50,860 look as we go here we've got by the way 150 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:53,350 Jim Marrs who's joining us in a few 151 00:07:57,450 --> 00:07:55,210 moments and we'll be getting up-to-date 152 00:08:00,540 --> 00:07:57,460 on all the latest conspiracy theories 153 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:00,550 graham hancock George Noory dr. Steven 154 00:08:06,570 --> 00:08:03,610 Greer David Wilcock let me go on here 155 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:06,580 Senator Mike Gravel just think of former 156 00:08:14,190 --> 00:08:10,930 US Senator has nothing to do nothing 157 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:14,200 left of his political career so he has 158 00:08:19,340 --> 00:08:16,330 to go to a UFO convention Jim Mars will 159 00:08:22,890 --> 00:08:19,350 be there shock filet Linda Moulton Howe 160 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:22,900 whitley strieber nick pope michael 161 00:08:31,590 --> 00:08:26,650 salawah combination david sarita Richard 162 00:08:38,270 --> 00:08:31,600 Dolan Laura Eisenhower I'm just giving 163 00:08:43,590 --> 00:08:38,280 you a half of this folks okay dr. dream 164 00:08:45,390 --> 00:08:43,600 Kathleen Mardan all right that's enough 165 00:08:47,490 --> 00:08:45,400 I can't handle any more I'm too 166 00:08:49,710 --> 00:08:47,500 overwhelmed with this list so let's 167 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:49,720 recover you know as 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got to subscribe 307 00:15:05,070 --> 00:15:00,550 to the power cast plus at plus P L us 308 00:15:09,900 --> 00:15:05,080 dot the power cast comm Jim Marrs is 309 00:15:11,610 --> 00:15:09,910 actually been what seven years since we 310 00:15:14,430 --> 00:15:11,620 first had you on the show do you 311 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:14,440 remember us at all well actually of 312 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:20,650 court no under the bridge in some years 313 00:15:24,570 --> 00:15:22,930 yeah a lot of things that happened the 314 00:15:26,730 --> 00:15:24,580 world has certainly changed 315 00:15:28,860 --> 00:15:26,740 that's exactly right hey gene I 316 00:15:31,470 --> 00:15:28,870 recognized your name and I do vaguely 317 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:31,480 recall that and hey you're making a good 318 00:15:36,090 --> 00:15:33,850 name for yourself okay so you're out 319 00:15:39,150 --> 00:15:36,100 there well that's good to be out there 320 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:39,160 by the way on GCN we are among the top 321 00:15:46,530 --> 00:15:43,690 seven streams good yeah so somebody's 322 00:15:48,810 --> 00:15:46,540 listening to us I guess Chris actually 323 00:15:55,410 --> 00:15:48,820 didn't join the show till two weeks 324 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:55,420 after your appearance well of course I 325 00:16:00,270 --> 00:15:57,490 heard it I went back and listened to it 326 00:16:03,390 --> 00:16:00,280 I was I was a listener a fan of the show 327 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:03,400 at the time how did you transfer from 328 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:07,450 being a listener to participant that's a 329 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:09,010 good question though somebody just asked 330 00:16:14,580 --> 00:16:12,730 me that recently um I don't know I guess 331 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:14,590 you know the listeners would like liked 332 00:16:20,010 --> 00:16:16,930 it when I was on the show as a guest and 333 00:16:23,290 --> 00:16:20,020 then they had me back on and then I got 334 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:23,300 invited to do some guest hosting and 335 00:16:31,740 --> 00:16:25,130 after about six months that was the only 336 00:16:34,900 --> 00:16:31,750 one left fault right now well you know 337 00:16:36,910 --> 00:16:34,910 long since realized that audiences 338 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:36,920 actually respond to somebody who 339 00:16:42,579 --> 00:16:40,610 actually saying something yeah it's it's 340 00:16:43,930 --> 00:16:42,589 kind of interesting you know you know 341 00:16:46,810 --> 00:16:43,940 now that you say well I don't really 342 00:16:50,769 --> 00:16:46,820 hold back I pretty much call spades 343 00:16:54,750 --> 00:16:50,779 spades and and hearts hearts I really 344 00:16:58,210 --> 00:16:54,760 have no time for a lot of the myopic 345 00:17:00,880 --> 00:16:58,220 true believers sort of blinders wearing 346 00:17:02,590 --> 00:17:00,890 crowd out there people that don't do 347 00:17:04,510 --> 00:17:02,600 their own research that can't be 348 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:04,520 bothered to really get up to speed on 349 00:17:08,919 --> 00:17:06,890 certain subjects and especially in the 350 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:08,929 paranormal realm and conspiracy realm 351 00:17:14,590 --> 00:17:12,050 and stuff so you know what can you do 352 00:17:17,770 --> 00:17:14,600 you know I just don't like it it's like 353 00:17:19,929 --> 00:17:17,780 you yeah exactly there's just so many 354 00:17:22,829 --> 00:17:19,939 people that they only want to listen to 355 00:17:25,510 --> 00:17:22,839 something that will support their views 356 00:17:27,189 --> 00:17:25,520 well that's why you pick for example we 357 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:27,199 don't want to get into politics except 358 00:17:31,390 --> 00:17:29,570 peripherally here you pick the cable 359 00:17:33,580 --> 00:17:31,400 news network that seems to support your 360 00:17:35,350 --> 00:17:33,590 views and you don't hear the other side 361 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:35,360 of the story and regardless of what you 362 00:17:41,049 --> 00:17:38,210 believe I think you have to really widen 363 00:17:43,090 --> 00:17:41,059 your horizons because you know there are 364 00:17:45,430 --> 00:17:43,100 editorial decisions and we all agree 365 00:17:48,580 --> 00:17:45,440 that the mainstream media whatever it is 366 00:17:50,799 --> 00:17:48,590 the mass media they're all owned by big 367 00:17:53,909 --> 00:17:50,809 corporations and they're here not to 368 00:17:56,530 --> 00:17:53,919 inform you they're here to make a profit 369 00:17:58,360 --> 00:17:56,540 absolutely in fact up to the point now 370 00:18:01,530 --> 00:17:58,370 that where I'll have to just admit to 371 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:01,540 you I am ashamed of my own profession 372 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:05,450 journalism that doesn't seem to be very 373 00:18:09,730 --> 00:18:07,690 many journalists left in this country 374 00:18:11,770 --> 00:18:09,740 you know this is very interesting 375 00:18:14,890 --> 00:18:11,780 because it takes us back to the 376 00:18:17,620 --> 00:18:14,900 conspiracy theories and I think we all 377 00:18:20,620 --> 00:18:17,630 kind of believe the government and most 378 00:18:23,770 --> 00:18:20,630 of us believe the media and then JFK was 379 00:18:27,130 --> 00:18:23,780 shot and I know for me and I'm talking 380 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:27,140 about somebody who's an old guy and Jim 381 00:18:30,700 --> 00:18:29,090 I don't know how old he is but you know 382 00:18:34,630 --> 00:18:30,710 he's been around for a couple of years 383 00:18:36,340 --> 00:18:34,640 probably older than you and I I'm not 384 00:18:38,140 --> 00:18:36,350 gonna date myself but 385 00:18:42,340 --> 00:18:38,150 I was almost grown before there was 386 00:18:44,260 --> 00:18:42,350 television can you imagine no television 387 00:18:45,820 --> 00:18:44,270 and it wasn't because it wasn't like we 388 00:18:48,700 --> 00:18:45,830 couldn't afford a television I mean 389 00:18:50,470 --> 00:18:48,710 there was no television I think we got 390 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:50,480 our first television in about the 391 00:18:55,810 --> 00:18:54,530 mid-50s 54 55 something like that well 392 00:18:58,539 --> 00:18:55,820 we didn't have a TV either 393 00:19:01,210 --> 00:18:58,549 to be blunt in the 1950s and I remember 394 00:19:03,039 --> 00:19:01,220 the 1950s we didn't have a TV set but 395 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:03,049 here's the thing and you'll see it 396 00:19:08,380 --> 00:19:05,450 because in a sense you're almost a 397 00:19:10,690 --> 00:19:08,390 contemporary of me right after the JFK 398 00:19:11,980 --> 00:19:10,700 shooting and we had all the TV events 399 00:19:14,529 --> 00:19:11,990 and everything and basically there was 400 00:19:17,770 --> 00:19:14,539 nothing on television for days and maybe 401 00:19:19,539 --> 00:19:17,780 a year or two later there's this New 402 00:19:23,260 --> 00:19:19,549 York State Assemblyman I guess he might 403 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:23,270 have been former by then mark Lane is in 404 00:19:27,659 --> 00:19:25,010 lectures wait a minute this is not 405 00:19:30,039 --> 00:19:27,669 working this rifle could not have 406 00:19:32,830 --> 00:19:30,049 performed these deeds and he went into 407 00:19:36,399 --> 00:19:32,840 all the questions when did you start to 408 00:19:38,350 --> 00:19:36,409 question it that very weekend because I 409 00:19:41,799 --> 00:19:38,360 grew up in Texas I had bolt-action 410 00:19:44,740 --> 00:19:41,809 rifles I'd been deer hunting and I knew 411 00:19:47,610 --> 00:19:44,750 full well that to fire and you have to 412 00:19:51,370 --> 00:19:47,620 fire the gun you have to the bolt 413 00:19:56,230 --> 00:19:51,380 eject the empty shell throw the bolt for 414 00:19:58,120 --> 00:19:56,240 an acute chamber a a live round then you 415 00:20:00,460 --> 00:19:58,130 have to regain your sight picture and 416 00:20:01,659 --> 00:20:00,470 then you can squeeze the trigger and 417 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:01,669 then it goes through that whole process 418 00:20:06,549 --> 00:20:04,730 again so that very day of the 419 00:20:07,810 --> 00:20:06,559 assassination they were interviewing all 420 00:20:12,130 --> 00:20:07,820 these people who had been in or around 421 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:12,140 DB Plaza and the commonality of their 422 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:14,090 statements was that there had been one 423 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:17,210 shot a pause and then two shots right on 424 00:20:22,090 --> 00:20:19,450 top of each other there kind of a bang 425 00:20:26,260 --> 00:20:22,100 bang bang okay 426 00:20:28,690 --> 00:20:26,270 well that really piqued my curiosity 427 00:20:31,029 --> 00:20:28,700 because I knew you cannot get a bang 428 00:20:33,070 --> 00:20:31,039 bang with the bolt-action rifle you have 429 00:20:35,710 --> 00:20:33,080 to the bolt you have to do the 430 00:20:41,770 --> 00:20:35,720 whole procedure I just outlined so it's 431 00:20:43,180 --> 00:20:41,780 got to go bang bang bang so right off 432 00:20:44,649 --> 00:20:43,190 the bat and there were people talking 433 00:20:46,149 --> 00:20:44,659 about shots from two different 434 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:46,159 directions at least two different 435 00:20:50,210 --> 00:20:47,850 directions so 436 00:20:51,770 --> 00:20:50,220 I thought all that makes sense if they 437 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:51,780 were more than one person shooting but 438 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:53,010 then of course they came out and they 439 00:20:58,730 --> 00:20:55,410 said no it's only Lee Harvey Oswald with 440 00:21:00,409 --> 00:20:58,740 his old bad Italian moniker rifle from 441 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:00,419 World War two up in the School Book 442 00:21:05,299 --> 00:21:02,490 Depository and he managed to hit two out 443 00:21:06,409 --> 00:21:05,309 of three shots and I'm just going to go 444 00:21:09,350 --> 00:21:06,419 wait a minute 445 00:21:11,210 --> 00:21:09,360 and so that got me going but I didn't 446 00:21:13,549 --> 00:21:11,220 have anything to put in place because as 447 00:21:15,980 --> 00:21:13,559 you just said back then we were just 448 00:21:17,990 --> 00:21:15,990 coming off of World War two and my uncle 449 00:21:20,299 --> 00:21:18,000 isn't bad all fought the war and you 450 00:21:22,340 --> 00:21:20,309 know we were God's gift to freedom and 451 00:21:25,370 --> 00:21:22,350 democracy and we had saved the world 452 00:21:27,500 --> 00:21:25,380 from the Nazis and Japanese imperialists 453 00:21:29,870 --> 00:21:27,510 and you know God was in his heaven and 454 00:21:31,850 --> 00:21:29,880 all was right with the world and we 455 00:21:34,279 --> 00:21:31,860 trusted the government and we trusted 456 00:21:37,039 --> 00:21:34,289 what they said so actually it was not 457 00:21:39,890 --> 00:21:37,049 until about 1972 I think the fall of 458 00:21:42,049 --> 00:21:39,900 1972 when one of the Watergate burglars 459 00:21:44,210 --> 00:21:42,059 finally went before the judge and says 460 00:21:46,010 --> 00:21:44,220 okay okay I'm gonna fess up we were 461 00:21:48,409 --> 00:21:46,020 actually working for the committee to 462 00:21:54,230 --> 00:21:48,419 re-elect the president with acronym 463 00:21:56,390 --> 00:21:54,240 creep the creep at that point I realized 464 00:21:57,980 --> 00:21:56,400 Nixon had been lying to his teeth when 465 00:22:00,500 --> 00:21:57,990 he said he didn't know anything about 466 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:00,510 all this and that was pretty good 467 00:22:04,430 --> 00:22:03,090 Tiffiny for me because I finally 468 00:22:07,039 --> 00:22:04,440 realized that wait a minute wait a 469 00:22:10,039 --> 00:22:07,049 minute the government even the President 470 00:22:14,380 --> 00:22:10,049 of the United States has can and will 471 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:14,390 lie to me OK about anything well and 472 00:22:22,430 --> 00:22:16,770 when it begin to kind of come together 473 00:22:23,870 --> 00:22:22,440 for me by 1976 I guess or 5 I was asked 474 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Kennedy 586 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:48,400 assassination how'd you swing that gig 587 00:27:53,070 --> 00:27:51,490 well they came to me actually I had been 588 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:53,080 writing some stories that appeared in 589 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:55,330 the newspaper and start telegram that I 590 00:27:59,190 --> 00:27:57,730 work for the head of the department came 591 00:28:01,410 --> 00:27:59,200 to me and asked me if I want to go to 592 00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:01,420 lunch eat during lunch he said you know 593 00:28:04,650 --> 00:28:02,710 have you ever thought about teaching a 594 00:28:07,020 --> 00:28:04,660 course on the Kennedy assassination one 595 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:07,030 I said no and I said but you know what 596 00:28:10,799 --> 00:28:08,530 that's kind of interesting because if I 597 00:28:13,620 --> 00:28:10,809 if I taught of course maybe then I would 598 00:28:15,570 --> 00:28:13,630 have the time to go into all of the 599 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:15,580 various details and the various bits of 600 00:28:20,370 --> 00:28:17,410 information that I'm aware of and that 601 00:28:22,860 --> 00:28:20,380 has really never been told to the public 602 00:28:26,010 --> 00:28:22,870 and so I just took that on I did that 603 00:28:30,090 --> 00:28:26,020 for 30 years I finally retired in 2007 604 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:30,100 after 30 years because when I started 605 00:28:34,740 --> 00:28:32,050 back in seventies there was hardly any 606 00:28:37,140 --> 00:28:34,750 books there were no TV specials there 607 00:28:38,580 --> 00:28:37,150 was nothing to actually present a public 608 00:28:44,310 --> 00:28:38,590 it's a whole segment of public 609 00:28:45,930 --> 00:28:44,320 publishing yeah exactly yeah go buy a 610 00:28:47,430 --> 00:28:45,940 few a handful of books and you pretty 611 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:47,440 much figure out everything you need to 612 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:48,490 figure out about the Kennedy 613 00:28:53,430 --> 00:28:51,370 assassination and just save you from all 614 00:28:55,169 --> 00:28:53,440 that reading and studying thought I'm 615 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:55,179 just going to tell you right now this 616 00:29:00,480 --> 00:28:57,610 was a palace revolt this was a coup 617 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:00,490 d'etat yeah it's just that's the Dulles 618 00:29:04,980 --> 00:29:03,730 brothers and right now most people of 619 00:29:06,540 --> 00:29:04,990 course who were concerned in knew 620 00:29:08,669 --> 00:29:06,550 they're already dead but there are a few 621 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:08,679 people right around like George Herbert 622 00:29:13,410 --> 00:29:10,690 Walker Bush I was just gonna I was gonna 623 00:29:16,290 --> 00:29:13,420 ask you to him about him what about this 624 00:29:18,810 --> 00:29:16,300 new photograph that probably not new to 625 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:18,820 you but several months ago somebody came 626 00:29:23,610 --> 00:29:20,890 up produced a photograph I saw it online 627 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:23,620 and it seemed legit and it appears to 628 00:29:29,669 --> 00:29:27,010 show poppy Bush standing on the stair 629 00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:29,679 with of the Book Depository and then 630 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:32,110 there's another photograph of a crowd 631 00:29:38,490 --> 00:29:35,170 shot and it looks like a teenage george 632 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:38,500 w bush stands right that's true 633 00:29:43,830 --> 00:29:41,050 and interestingly enough I don't about 634 00:29:45,030 --> 00:29:43,840 George W but I know at the senior bush 635 00:29:47,700 --> 00:29:45,040 along 636 00:29:49,650 --> 00:29:47,710 the Richard Nixon were two of the people 637 00:29:51,690 --> 00:29:49,660 that were interrogated by the FBI and 638 00:29:54,150 --> 00:29:51,700 could not really remember where they 639 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:54,160 were when Kennedy was shot which of 640 00:29:58,590 --> 00:29:56,370 course is pretty amazing because that's 641 00:30:01,200 --> 00:29:58,600 Kennedy assassination is one of those 642 00:30:05,820 --> 00:30:01,210 defining moments work I even remember 643 00:30:08,190 --> 00:30:05,830 where that was remember where I was well 644 00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:08,200 that's one way to have plausible 645 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:10,510 deniability I don't remember where I was 646 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:12,850 therefore I know nothing about it by the 647 00:30:17,580 --> 00:30:14,890 way let's drop this in talk about palace 648 00:30:19,290 --> 00:30:17,590 coup we all are familiar with I guess 649 00:30:21,510 --> 00:30:19,300 someone who did work with Nixon Roger 650 00:30:24,690 --> 00:30:21,520 stone it was currently a friend of 651 00:30:27,180 --> 00:30:24,700 President Trump he says it was Johnson 652 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:27,190 who did it yeah obviously for the 653 00:30:32,010 --> 00:30:29,290 connection being the person who benefits 654 00:30:34,050 --> 00:30:32,020 most from the death of Kennedy right but 655 00:30:36,420 --> 00:30:34,060 that's drawing assumptions he benefited 656 00:30:38,130 --> 00:30:36,430 so must been involved let me put it this 657 00:30:41,910 --> 00:30:38,140 way in a court of law 658 00:30:45,060 --> 00:30:41,920 there is a category known as accessory 659 00:30:47,820 --> 00:30:45,070 after the fact okay if you murder 660 00:30:50,910 --> 00:30:47,830 somebody hand me the pistol to hide and 661 00:30:53,460 --> 00:30:50,920 I Drive you away I didn't kill anybody 662 00:30:56,190 --> 00:30:53,470 but unless I go the cops and turn you in 663 00:30:58,260 --> 00:30:56,200 I'm an accessory after the fact and I 664 00:31:01,470 --> 00:30:58,270 know in Texas we've actually executed 665 00:31:03,650 --> 00:31:01,480 people who the record of the crime shows 666 00:31:05,970 --> 00:31:03,660 did not kill anybody but they were 667 00:31:08,670 --> 00:31:05,980 participated they weren't accessory and 668 00:31:11,250 --> 00:31:08,680 we execute them because under our legal 669 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:11,260 system if you're an accessory you're 670 00:31:15,540 --> 00:31:13,090 considered just as guilty as the person 671 00:31:18,030 --> 00:31:15,550 who pulled the trigger so under that 672 00:31:21,180 --> 00:31:18,040 legal criteria I can tell you without 673 00:31:24,170 --> 00:31:21,190 any fear of contradiction that the two 674 00:31:25,950 --> 00:31:24,180 people who can stand guilty in the 675 00:31:28,740 --> 00:31:25,960 assassination of President John F 676 00:31:30,990 --> 00:31:28,750 Kennedy are lyndon b johnson and his 677 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:31,000 next-door neighbor and old buddy jr. 678 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:33,970 hoover who was the FBI at the time and 679 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:36,850 the FBI now why can i can i prove that 680 00:31:42,570 --> 00:31:39,730 those two men orchestrated or authorized 681 00:31:45,090 --> 00:31:42,580 the assassination no but what i can 682 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:45,100 prove beyond any reasonable shadow of a 683 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:47,650 doubt yet that both those men took steps 684 00:31:53,580 --> 00:31:50,890 to block and blunt any meaningful 685 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:53,590 truthful investigation into the 686 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:55,930 assassination this is what makes them 687 00:31:59,690 --> 00:31:56,610 accessory 688 00:32:02,720 --> 00:31:59,700 after the fact and they are guilty under 689 00:32:05,110 --> 00:32:02,730 our legal standards so there you go and 690 00:32:08,450 --> 00:32:05,120 both of those men profited handsomely 691 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:08,460 from the assassination Johnson was about 692 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:11,010 to be sent to jail because of some of 693 00:32:16,610 --> 00:32:13,890 his corrupt dealings okay well of course 694 00:32:18,230 --> 00:32:16,620 once the shots are fired Kenny's dead he 695 00:32:20,419 --> 00:32:18,240 becomes president they I everybody 696 00:32:22,460 --> 00:32:20,429 backed off all right and he continued to 697 00:32:24,770 --> 00:32:22,470 be President let's just pursue that for 698 00:32:27,110 --> 00:32:24,780 a second before we go to Hoover all 699 00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:27,120 right we've heard of him being a wheeler 700 00:32:33,020 --> 00:32:30,110 dealer but where was the evidence that 701 00:32:35,330 --> 00:32:33,030 would create the situation of a crime 702 00:32:38,030 --> 00:32:35,340 there that he could be charged with well 703 00:32:40,820 --> 00:32:38,040 because his cliff Carter his chief 704 00:32:44,030 --> 00:32:40,830 assistant goes to here's just one 705 00:32:45,950 --> 00:32:44,040 incident goes to John Connally and 706 00:32:49,010 --> 00:32:45,960 collected the clothes he was wearing 707 00:32:51,500 --> 00:32:49,020 okay bloodied bullet holes in it 708 00:32:53,210 --> 00:32:51,510 everything else and yet when that was 709 00:32:55,310 --> 00:32:53,220 turned over to the Warren Commission 710 00:32:59,090 --> 00:32:55,320 that suit had been cleaned and pressed 711 00:33:01,669 --> 00:32:59,100 and essentially destroyed as forensic 712 00:33:04,870 --> 00:33:01,679 evidence in the crime so there's just 713 00:33:08,150 --> 00:33:04,880 one the other thing is is that the 714 00:33:09,730 --> 00:33:08,160 Kennedys limousine in fact you know 715 00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:09,740 there at Parkland Hospital in Dallas 716 00:33:15,350 --> 00:33:12,000 Secret Service agents were scrubbing 717 00:33:17,510 --> 00:33:15,360 down the car replacing windows and then 718 00:33:20,690 --> 00:33:17,520 Johnson ordered that the whole car be 719 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:20,700 sent and be rebuilt okay and this was 720 00:33:26,150 --> 00:33:23,090 all long before any investigators could 721 00:33:28,030 --> 00:33:26,160 could look at the car and determine you 722 00:33:30,470 --> 00:33:28,040 know where bullet marks were 723 00:33:32,299 --> 00:33:30,480 trajectories and everything else this is 724 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:32,309 clear destruction of evidence in fact 725 00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:35,010 both whoe'er and Johnson can be 726 00:33:38,750 --> 00:33:36,960 demonstrated to have practice these 727 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:38,760 crimes destruction of evidence 728 00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:40,890 suppression of evidence operation of 729 00:33:45,470 --> 00:33:42,510 evidence suppression of evidence and 730 00:33:47,690 --> 00:33:45,480 intimidation of witnesses we understand 731 00:33:50,090 --> 00:33:47,700 what's going on there but the 732 00:33:52,909 --> 00:33:50,100 implication what you said is before this 733 00:33:54,650 --> 00:33:52,919 happened had this not taken place 734 00:33:56,030 --> 00:33:54,660 Johnson could have been charged with a 735 00:33:58,850 --> 00:33:56,040 crime for other things 736 00:34:01,880 --> 00:33:58,860 yes in fact I've talked with a man who 737 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:01,890 worked for a Life magazine and the 738 00:34:07,909 --> 00:34:05,490 weekend after the week after the that 739 00:34:10,070 --> 00:34:07,919 November when the assassination happened 740 00:34:13,220 --> 00:34:10,080 Life magazine was all set to run 741 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:13,230 big story exposing Johnson and some of 742 00:34:17,330 --> 00:34:15,090 his corrupt dealings and of course once 743 00:34:19,490 --> 00:34:17,340 the assassination happened the guy said 744 00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:19,500 they scratched all that and ran with the 745 00:34:23,450 --> 00:34:22,110 assassination well that was one way to 746 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:23,460 stop the inquiry 747 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:26,490 okay what about J Edgar Hoover well 748 00:34:31,550 --> 00:34:28,410 Jagger Hoover of course over and above 749 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:31,560 of flitting around in his tutu you know 750 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:34,050 was so susceptible to blackmail through 751 00:34:38,810 --> 00:34:35,610 the Mafia and everybody else because 752 00:34:41,810 --> 00:34:38,820 they knew about his homosexuality they 753 00:34:43,730 --> 00:34:41,820 knew about is gambling you knew about 754 00:34:46,340 --> 00:34:43,740 the payoffs he had in his connections 755 00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:46,350 with the Mafia keep in mind that Jagger 756 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:49,200 Hoover through the 50s and early 60s had 757 00:34:53,630 --> 00:34:51,090 publicly maintained there was no such 758 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:53,640 thing as organized crime the Mafia 759 00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:57,450 didn't exist okay and so yet the reason 760 00:35:01,820 --> 00:34:59,040 that we all became aware of that was 761 00:35:03,380 --> 00:35:01,830 Attorney General Robert Kennedy John 762 00:35:05,570 --> 00:35:03,390 Kennedy's brother who he appointed 763 00:35:08,270 --> 00:35:05,580 Attorney General and he brought Joe 764 00:35:10,220 --> 00:35:08,280 Valachi to Washington who spilled his 765 00:35:11,990 --> 00:35:10,230 guts and began to talk and tell her 766 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:12,000 buddy about the makeup of the Mafia and 767 00:35:15,500 --> 00:35:13,770 where they were what they were doing 768 00:35:17,900 --> 00:35:15,510 everything else and that's when we first 769 00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:17,910 became aware of the Mafia and I want to 770 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:19,200 tell you I was aware because I was 771 00:35:23,660 --> 00:35:22,050 already on the degree plan for 772 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:23,670 journalism and I was keeping up with the 773 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:26,370 news but most people I mean let me put 774 00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:29,970 this in context in 1963 most people had 775 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:32,250 certainly down here in Texas had never 776 00:35:36,050 --> 00:35:33,930 heard of the Mafia we didn't even know 777 00:35:38,150 --> 00:35:36,060 existed okay and there were never any 778 00:35:41,390 --> 00:35:38,160 stories about it or anything else and 779 00:35:45,110 --> 00:35:41,400 most people did not know about the CIA 780 00:35:46,790 --> 00:35:45,120 it was a secret organization and I was 781 00:35:48,980 --> 00:35:46,800 aware of it because again as a 782 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:48,990 journalist I was studying and reading 783 00:35:53,510 --> 00:35:51,690 and delving in stuff but most Nogales 784 00:35:56,510 --> 00:35:53,520 Street really didn't even know the CIA 785 00:35:58,670 --> 00:35:56,520 exists and this was this explains how 786 00:36:02,240 --> 00:35:58,680 they were able to move through organized 787 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:02,250 crime and the CIA and other alphabet 788 00:36:06,970 --> 00:36:04,530 agencies and get things done and most 789 00:36:09,620 --> 00:36:06,980 people had no clue that it was going on 790 00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:09,630 you know there has always been a rumor 791 00:36:18,890 --> 00:36:14,250 here about the CIA doing drug-related 792 00:36:21,110 --> 00:36:18,900 stuff with organized crime yeah and I'll 793 00:36:23,780 --> 00:36:21,120 tell our listeners by the way because 794 00:36:27,380 --> 00:36:23,790 the principal figure is no 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00:41:14,990 hi this is James Fox from chasing UFOs 907 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:17,760 you're listening to the panic at the 908 00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:24,450 gold standard of paranormal radio okay 909 00:41:29,569 --> 00:41:26,250 so let me give you the revelation the 910 00:41:31,970 --> 00:41:29,579 relative was on the show as a expert on 911 00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:31,980 collectibles on the power cast back in 912 00:41:39,620 --> 00:41:35,609 the days of our original co-host and he 913 00:41:42,730 --> 00:41:39,630 was charged with conspiracy in the 1970s 914 00:41:45,700 --> 00:41:42,740 in relationship to one of these efforts 915 00:41:49,190 --> 00:41:45,710 somewhere in Suffolk County New York 916 00:41:53,299 --> 00:41:49,200 where they were charged with trying to 917 00:41:57,020 --> 00:41:53,309 use this plane to bring in drugs and he 918 00:41:59,480 --> 00:41:57,030 said there was a CIA dude who was part 919 00:42:01,250 --> 00:41:59,490 of the team and never admitted it was 920 00:42:04,190 --> 00:42:01,260 drug-related at the time I think later 921 00:42:08,710 --> 00:42:04,200 on he finally did and I remember meeting 922 00:42:11,809 --> 00:42:08,720 a lawyer at the time who was the classic 923 00:42:13,190 --> 00:42:11,819 mafia lawyer who lived in Bay Ridge 924 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:13,200 Brooklyn I mean if you look at the 925 00:42:19,220 --> 00:42:15,450 movies and you imagine one of these 926 00:42:21,829 --> 00:42:19,230 people he was a made lawyer he was like 927 00:42:24,260 --> 00:42:21,839 the quintessential made lawyer so that's 928 00:42:26,030 --> 00:42:24,270 what I know about it all right something 929 00:42:29,299 --> 00:42:26,040 happened to a relative but let's get 930 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:29,309 back on with jQuery and doing stuff and 931 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:32,010 the inquiry by Robert Kennedy into the 932 00:42:37,609 --> 00:42:34,770 Mafia well let me add to what you just 933 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:37,619 said that I could cite you a half dozen 934 00:42:42,079 --> 00:42:39,450 or more stories of people who've been 935 00:42:44,930 --> 00:42:42,089 set up and who have been charged with 936 00:42:47,180 --> 00:42:44,940 crimes sometimes it's at prison I know I 937 00:42:49,430 --> 00:42:47,190 worked on a case with a fellow here in 938 00:42:51,380 --> 00:42:49,440 Texas who sold airplanes and the DEA 939 00:42:52,609 --> 00:42:51,390 came to him and said we think some of 940 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:52,619 these planes are being used for 941 00:42:57,980 --> 00:42:55,410 smuggling drugs can we you know keep 942 00:42:59,329 --> 00:42:57,990 tabs on them and and you can give us the 943 00:42:59,599 --> 00:42:59,339 registration numbers and things like 944 00:43:01,730 --> 00:42:59,609 that 945 00:43:04,220 --> 00:43:01,740 he'd being a good patriotic American and 946 00:43:06,109 --> 00:43:04,230 he said yeah okay so over the next few 947 00:43:08,870 --> 00:43:06,119 years he was selling and trading 948 00:43:11,210 --> 00:43:08,880 airplanes sometimes - probably known 949 00:43:14,270 --> 00:43:11,220 drug dealers because he was told to by 950 00:43:15,890 --> 00:43:14,280 the DEA well then there was a crutch 951 00:43:18,020 --> 00:43:15,900 they wanted some arrests they want 952 00:43:21,410 --> 00:43:18,030 something to do so they turn around and 953 00:43:24,059 --> 00:43:21,420 charge this guy as being a drug traffic 954 00:43:26,009 --> 00:43:24,069 tear and he hired a very 955 00:43:29,039 --> 00:43:26,019 hotshot lawyer out of West Texas you 956 00:43:30,839 --> 00:43:29,049 came to Dallas and he got in touch with 957 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:30,849 me and I was telling him all about what 958 00:43:35,819 --> 00:43:32,410 I knew about the drug running and the 959 00:43:38,910 --> 00:43:35,829 Mena Arkansas and you know the CIA and 960 00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:38,920 etc and he's getting fired up he said oh 961 00:43:43,019 --> 00:43:41,440 yeah and this guy got set up and then 962 00:43:44,579 --> 00:43:43,029 all of a sudden though he realized that 963 00:43:46,170 --> 00:43:44,589 he was up against the federal government 964 00:43:48,959 --> 00:43:46,180 of the United States and he just backed 965 00:43:51,180 --> 00:43:48,969 off told me to go away and ended up 966 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:51,190 pleading the guy guilty and this guy 967 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:53,410 goes to prison that's being a big drug 968 00:43:58,259 --> 00:43:55,930 smuggling kingpin although they were 969 00:44:01,079 --> 00:43:58,269 they never found any drugs on him and 970 00:44:03,539 --> 00:44:01,089 they never found any drug money can you 971 00:44:06,829 --> 00:44:03,549 imagine that quick question here so 972 00:44:10,289 --> 00:44:06,839 Kennedy is investigating the Mafia as 973 00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:10,299 the Attorney General and we obviously we 974 00:44:15,269 --> 00:44:13,089 know that J Edgar Hoover doesn't want 975 00:44:18,769 --> 00:44:15,279 that to happen wouldn't the easier 976 00:44:21,959 --> 00:44:18,779 solution we've been to quietly poison 977 00:44:23,939 --> 00:44:21,969 RFK or would that have exacerbated the 978 00:44:25,439 --> 00:44:23,949 situation because then his brother the 979 00:44:28,140 --> 00:44:25,449 president would figure out what's going 980 00:44:30,630 --> 00:44:28,150 on that's exactly what it was in fact 981 00:44:32,309 --> 00:44:30,640 there was a quote I think it might have 982 00:44:34,650 --> 00:44:32,319 been one of the mafia chieftains carlos 983 00:44:36,539 --> 00:44:34,660 marcello you know they said they asked 984 00:44:38,939 --> 00:44:36,549 him same things as lawrence just get rid 985 00:44:41,189 --> 00:44:38,949 of bobbies and he said well when you cut 986 00:44:45,150 --> 00:44:41,199 off the tail of the dog the head can 987 00:44:47,430 --> 00:44:45,160 still bite you or just stole it add in a 988 00:44:49,859 --> 00:44:47,440 50-gallon drug like I did Johnny what's 989 00:44:51,660 --> 00:44:49,869 up the Kennedy assassination came about 990 00:44:54,029 --> 00:44:51,670 not because of any one particular cause 991 00:44:55,439 --> 00:44:54,039 it was a culmination of all kinds of 992 00:44:56,969 --> 00:44:55,449 things that was going on first of all 993 00:45:00,479 --> 00:44:56,979 he's got the Mafia mad at him because 994 00:45:03,059 --> 00:45:00,489 and in a self-defense mode because they 995 00:45:04,859 --> 00:45:03,069 were trying to break the back of the 996 00:45:07,259 --> 00:45:04,869 Mafia in this country and they came very 997 00:45:09,870 --> 00:45:07,269 close to doing so they're in the self 998 00:45:11,430 --> 00:45:09,880 defense mode CIA he told the New York 999 00:45:13,559 --> 00:45:11,440 Times he was gonna splinter it in a 1000 00:45:15,630 --> 00:45:13,569 thousand pieces and cast it to the winds 1001 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:15,640 so he's gonna do away with the CIA so 1002 00:45:20,099 --> 00:45:18,130 they're in a self-defense mode the 1003 00:45:22,049 --> 00:45:20,109 military was really mad at him because 1004 00:45:24,660 --> 00:45:22,059 when he first took office they wanted it 1005 00:45:26,939 --> 00:45:24,670 to new layoffs and he said no we're not 1006 00:45:28,829 --> 00:45:26,949 gonna do that and then they wanted to 1007 00:45:30,870 --> 00:45:28,839 launch another Bay of Pigs invasion he 1008 00:45:34,019 --> 00:45:30,880 said no we're not gonna do that and then 1009 00:45:36,029 --> 00:45:34,029 he in the Cuban Missile Crisis he 1010 00:45:37,100 --> 00:45:36,039 actually negotiated the deal with 1011 00:45:38,900 --> 00:45:37,110 Khrushchev 1012 00:45:41,050 --> 00:45:38,910 and the deal was basically if you'll 1013 00:45:44,150 --> 00:45:41,060 call your offensive missiles out of Cuba 1014 00:45:47,300 --> 00:45:44,160 we will pull our offensive missiles out 1015 00:45:50,330 --> 00:45:47,310 of Turkey and other NATO countries that 1016 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:50,340 are ringing the Soviet Union and so that 1017 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:52,050 was agreed upon the problem was that 1018 00:45:56,300 --> 00:45:54,570 that that agreement a lot of that was 1019 00:45:59,510 --> 00:45:56,310 secret all the public knew was that 1020 00:46:01,670 --> 00:45:59,520 Kennedy had drawn a line in the ocean so 1021 00:46:03,830 --> 00:46:01,680 to speak and that told him not cross 1022 00:46:05,540 --> 00:46:03,840 that or we'll take measures and they did 1023 00:46:07,940 --> 00:46:05,550 they stopped and turned around went back 1024 00:46:10,850 --> 00:46:07,950 and he was hailed as the great hero 1025 00:46:13,010 --> 00:46:10,860 because he had stopped the Soviet Union 1026 00:46:15,410 --> 00:46:13,020 but actually it was just a deal but the 1027 00:46:17,810 --> 00:46:15,420 deal was not known to the lower echelons 1028 00:46:19,700 --> 00:46:17,820 for a long time and that's why right 1029 00:46:21,530 --> 00:46:19,710 after the assassination there was a very 1030 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:21,540 obvious attempt to try to blame the 1031 00:46:25,490 --> 00:46:23,970 assassination on Castro and they 1032 00:46:28,070 --> 00:46:25,500 continued to do that for a number of 1033 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:28,080 years and they had some vaguely tenuous 1034 00:46:31,970 --> 00:46:30,210 connection such as Oswald's trip to 1035 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:31,980 Mexico City and he tried to go to the 1036 00:46:36,770 --> 00:46:34,290 Cuban embassy and bla bla bla bla bla 1037 00:46:40,010 --> 00:46:36,780 but there was never anything really to 1038 00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:40,020 that because it was a domestic operation 1039 00:46:44,900 --> 00:46:42,240 you know so I think it's telling that 1040 00:46:48,650 --> 00:46:44,910 the first thing Johnson did upon getting 1041 00:46:50,750 --> 00:46:48,660 the White House was signed a huge deal 1042 00:46:53,540 --> 00:46:50,760 with Bell Helicopter which went on to 1043 00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:53,550 further pour gasoline on the Vietnam War 1044 00:47:01,220 --> 00:46:57,690 yes and that Kennedy wasn't willing to 1045 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:01,230 to sign that big contract with with Bell 1046 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:05,130 brothers Huey helicopters for the you 1047 00:47:10,220 --> 00:47:07,650 know for the emerging concept of Air 1048 00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:10,230 Cavalry that's exactly right and and it 1049 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:12,480 would even got more expanded than that 1050 00:47:17,780 --> 00:47:15,810 the Johnson was representing Texas in 1051 00:47:20,750 --> 00:47:17,790 Texas there we had all these defense 1052 00:47:23,660 --> 00:47:20,760 industries here we had LTV wing timko 1053 00:47:26,710 --> 00:47:23,670 vault we had Texas Instruments we had 1054 00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:26,720 Bell Helicopter we had General Dynamics 1055 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:29,250 you know he had the SAC base there in 1056 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:31,530 Fort Worth I don't like that and then of 1057 00:47:37,100 --> 00:47:33,930 course the the Brown & Root George Brown 1058 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:37,110 had put and Johnson in into office back 1059 00:47:42,890 --> 00:47:39,770 in the 40s because they were about they 1060 00:47:45,650 --> 00:47:42,900 and started work on a dam in South Texas 1061 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:45,660 and then not gotten fully federal funded 1062 00:47:49,430 --> 00:47:47,970 and they were out of their own pocket by 1063 00:47:51,230 --> 00:47:49,440 about 12 million dollars 1064 00:47:53,240 --> 00:47:51,240 and the congressman who would push that 1065 00:47:55,850 --> 00:47:53,250 through for him suddenly died of a heart 1066 00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:55,860 attack or died they managed to get 1067 00:48:00,110 --> 00:47:58,050 Johnson in there with the whole idea of 1068 00:48:02,990 --> 00:48:00,120 renewing the contract and saving them 1069 00:48:04,970 --> 00:48:03,000 there 12 million dollars which he did ok 1070 00:48:09,410 --> 00:48:04,980 so then he goes on you mentioned Vietnam 1071 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:09,420 Vietnam the Cam Ranh Bay the the big 1072 00:48:16,370 --> 00:48:12,810 seaport there that Brown and Root almost 1073 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:16,380 exclusively built a lot of money flowing 1074 00:48:22,070 --> 00:48:18,930 and a lot of money flowing in the war 1075 00:48:23,570 --> 00:48:22,080 industry and you know this is why in 1076 00:48:25,940 --> 00:48:23,580 Kennedy I think would have shut that 1077 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:25,950 down you know he was famous for saying 1078 00:48:30,290 --> 00:48:28,290 about the Vietnamese that it's their war 1079 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:30,300 and they're either gonna win it or lose 1080 00:48:34,460 --> 00:48:32,850 it not there's no doubt in my mind that 1081 00:48:36,650 --> 00:48:34,470 John Kennedy would never have allowed 1082 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:36,660 the introduction of ground combat troops 1083 00:48:42,500 --> 00:48:39,690 in Vietnam he did increase some of the 1084 00:48:46,070 --> 00:48:42,510 advisers over there but then in November 1085 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:46,080 of early November 1963 right before he 1086 00:48:51,350 --> 00:48:49,050 was assassinated he ordered that a 1087 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:51,360 thousand military advisers be withdrawn 1088 00:48:59,510 --> 00:48:55,890 and began to withdraw our people from 1089 00:49:03,890 --> 00:48:59,520 Vietnam and he said he thought that we 1090 00:49:05,810 --> 00:49:03,900 could all be out by the end of 1965 but 1091 00:49:07,910 --> 00:49:05,820 we never got to experience that because 1092 00:49:09,530 --> 00:49:07,920 as soon as he was here's another 1093 00:49:13,430 --> 00:49:09,540 interesting tidbit you guys are gonna 1094 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:13,440 love this this was this pullout and then 1095 00:49:18,860 --> 00:49:15,450 he says make no formal announcement 1096 00:49:21,380 --> 00:49:18,870 begin withdrawal with 1,000 military 1097 00:49:24,140 --> 00:49:21,390 people from Vietnam that was that was 1098 00:49:28,790 --> 00:49:24,150 issued on early November I want to say 1099 00:49:31,250 --> 00:49:28,800 November the 11th of 63 and then of 1100 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:31,260 course on Friday November for the 22nd 1101 00:49:35,660 --> 00:49:32,850 he's murdered and died less than two 1102 00:49:38,420 --> 00:49:35,670 weeks later yeah and on Monday following 1103 00:49:40,510 --> 00:49:38,430 the Friday assassination Johnson issues 1104 00:49:43,910 --> 00:49:40,520 a national security action memorandum 1105 00:49:46,700 --> 00:49:43,920 273 which reverses this pullout order 1106 00:49:48,830 --> 00:49:46,710 says do not drop any troops lower than 1107 00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:48,840 the time of the diem brothers which was 1108 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:52,800 at the first of November and and then he 1109 00:49:57,590 --> 00:49:55,170 began to lay out plans for expanding the 1110 00:49:59,930 --> 00:49:57,600 war to layoffs Cambodia and also 1111 00:50:01,240 --> 00:49:59,940 mentioned plausible deniability you know 1112 00:50:03,310 --> 00:50:01,250 we might want to 1113 00:50:05,950 --> 00:50:03,320 that we're really doing all of this and 1114 00:50:08,290 --> 00:50:05,960 that that's what really put us on the on 1115 00:50:10,510 --> 00:50:08,300 the Vietnam War course well what's 1116 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:10,520 really fascinating is is that from the 1117 00:50:17,190 --> 00:50:12,770 Johnson library in Austin I got a copy 1118 00:50:20,410 --> 00:50:17,200 of the rough draft of Johnson's 1119 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:20,420 memorandum 273 and it was written on 1120 00:50:30,460 --> 00:50:28,610 November the 21st they were already 1121 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:30,470 shifting stuff they knew he wasn't gonna 1122 00:50:37,510 --> 00:50:33,050 come back from Texas that's a that's a 1123 00:50:40,150 --> 00:50:37,520 smoking sharp sharpshooters rifle yeah 1124 00:50:42,490 --> 00:50:40,160 well another thing too is you mentioned 1125 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:42,500 Brown & Root of course the names 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operandi it 1210 00:54:45,620 --> 00:54:43,800 ain't broke so they're not trying to fix 1211 00:54:48,620 --> 00:54:45,630 it and they think everybody's stupid 1212 00:54:51,350 --> 00:54:48,630 enough not to notice that running drugs 1213 00:54:53,720 --> 00:54:51,360 you know to fund black projects and 1214 00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:53,730 taking out very brave investigative 1215 00:54:57,410 --> 00:54:55,410 journalists I mean talk about the CIA 1216 00:54:59,870 --> 00:54:57,420 and running drugs and the Golden 1217 00:55:02,300 --> 00:54:59,880 Triangle in Vietnam and and it goes all 1218 00:55:04,070 --> 00:55:02,310 the way back to British losing the team 1219 00:55:06,740 --> 00:55:04,080 on monopoly and say what do we gonna do 1220 00:55:09,050 --> 00:55:06,750 with all these ships well as well strong 1221 00:55:11,330 --> 00:55:09,060 arm the Chinese there allows that slip 1222 00:55:13,460 --> 00:55:11,340 and sell opium in China I mean it goes 1223 00:55:15,290 --> 00:55:13,470 all the way back it ain't broke so 1224 00:55:17,720 --> 00:55:15,300 they're not trying to fix it in and most 1225 00:55:20,270 --> 00:55:17,730 of the American people and um you know 1226 00:55:22,070 --> 00:55:20,280 you know what a stand they don't care 1227 00:55:24,500 --> 00:55:22,080 they're you know it's like their heads 1228 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:24,510 are in the sand their people tissues are 1229 00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:26,970 in the air weight jackboot and it's 1230 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:29,730 unfortunate that you know we end up with 1231 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:32,010 such a knee-jerk reaction by the 1232 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:34,170 collective against politicians and we 1233 00:55:38,390 --> 00:55:35,610 end up in a situation that we're in now 1234 00:55:39,830 --> 00:55:38,400 Chris I have to I have to contradict you 1235 00:55:41,570 --> 00:55:39,840 here I don't think we're talking 1236 00:55:43,580 --> 00:55:41,580 politics here okay 1237 00:55:45,740 --> 00:55:43,590 politics is when they want to build a 1238 00:55:47,270 --> 00:55:45,750 new highway or a new school and then 1239 00:55:49,340 --> 00:55:47,280 maybe the different parties and 1240 00:55:51,050 --> 00:55:49,350 different individuals argue over how 1241 00:55:53,030 --> 00:55:51,060 they're going to fund it that's politics 1242 00:55:56,630 --> 00:55:53,040 that's normal stuff but we're talking 1243 00:55:58,790 --> 00:55:56,640 about is criminal activity okay and I'll 1244 00:56:00,530 --> 00:55:58,800 admit I've heard all my life you know in 1245 00:56:03,260 --> 00:56:00,540 decent company you don't want to discuss 1246 00:56:05,300 --> 00:56:03,270 religion or politics which is probably a 1247 00:56:08,420 --> 00:56:05,310 good rule of thumb unless you're really 1248 00:56:15,050 --> 00:56:08,430 good friends but hey nobody ever said 1249 00:56:17,890 --> 00:56:15,060 you can't discuss criminality good good 1250 00:56:21,020 --> 00:56:17,900 point of distinction there 1251 00:56:24,500 --> 00:56:21,030 well you know looking at Donald Trump's 1252 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:24,510 you know cabinet and his is probably 1253 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:27,890 beholden to relationships with certain 1254 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:31,650 kind unsavory Russians under the scenes 1255 00:56:36,620 --> 00:56:34,050 and and then one very very visible 1256 00:56:41,870 --> 00:56:36,630 Russian it's very interesting that I saw 1257 00:56:44,630 --> 00:56:41,880 a list of connections between the you 1258 00:56:47,270 --> 00:56:44,640 know Trump insiders with hey you know 1259 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:47,280 come on come on guys let's let's be fair 1260 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:48,690 and square about the whole thing all 1261 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:50,010 through those presidential debates 1262 00:56:54,530 --> 00:56:52,410 Hillary Clinton kept asking Trump where 1263 00:56:56,150 --> 00:56:54,540 what are your deals with Russia he kept 1264 00:56:58,640 --> 00:56:56,160 saying how have you deal with Russia 1265 00:57:00,920 --> 00:56:58,650 well nobody ever asked Hillary what 1266 00:57:03,290 --> 00:57:00,930 about your deals with Russia because the 1267 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:03,300 Secretary of State Jim Iraq why not 1268 00:57:06,370 --> 00:57:04,890 we're going down a rabbit hole because 1269 00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:06,380 what you're talking about is a deal that 1270 00:57:10,580 --> 00:57:08,730 involved nine agencies and I'd rather 1271 00:57:12,860 --> 00:57:10,590 not get into that rabbit hole because 1272 00:57:16,130 --> 00:57:12,870 it's not really getting into our 1273 00:57:18,830 --> 00:57:16,140 conspiracy here about the JFK part and 1274 00:57:25,790 --> 00:57:18,840 parcel of the same the same unfolding 1275 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:25,800 very nasty card game and as far as Trump 1276 00:57:30,170 --> 00:57:28,170 in bed with the Russians and they're 1277 00:57:31,910 --> 00:57:30,180 really you know 'dada daata down if 1278 00:57:33,980 --> 00:57:31,920 they're if the right let me put this way 1279 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:33,990 if the Russians were able to influence 1280 00:57:40,370 --> 00:57:36,690 our national elections we would not have 1281 00:57:42,170 --> 00:57:40,380 had Barack Hussein Obama for eight years 1282 00:57:43,820 --> 00:57:42,180 all right let's leave it there and let's 1283 00:57:45,710 --> 00:57:43,830 get back to the other stuff because I 1284 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:45,720 think that gets to be more fascinating 1285 00:57:49,730 --> 00:57:47,970 now here's the thing we can look at all 1286 00:57:51,950 --> 00:57:49,740 the stuff about the Kennedy 1287 00:57:55,030 --> 00:57:51,960 assassination but it's never going to be 1288 00:57:59,450 --> 00:57:55,040 solved for real oh it's already solved 1289 00:58:02,930 --> 00:57:59,460 what it was is a coup yeah you know I so 1290 00:58:05,180 --> 00:58:02,940 see just not asking the proper question 1291 00:58:06,740 --> 00:58:05,190 it's already solved if you want to read 1292 00:58:08,540 --> 00:58:06,750 all the material that's out there and 1293 00:58:10,130 --> 00:58:08,550 look at all the youtubes look at 1294 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:10,140 everything that's available you'll know 1295 00:58:14,150 --> 00:58:11,970 exactly what happened you're saying 1296 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:14,160 basically it's very published one of 1297 00:58:17,450 --> 00:58:15,690 these books or the information of the 1298 00:58:21,650 --> 00:58:17,460 information it's already in there but 1299 00:58:25,190 --> 00:58:21,660 but is there any hope that this will be 1300 00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:25,200 a generally revealed story I mean we go 1301 00:58:31,010 --> 00:58:27,410 back to the late 70s when they had this 1302 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:31,020 select committee in Congress where they 1303 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:31,290 can 1304 00:58:36,710 --> 00:58:34,890 included that a conspiracy was involved 1305 00:58:38,630 --> 00:58:36,720 in the death of Kennedy but they never 1306 00:58:40,010 --> 00:58:38,640 went anywhere with it that's right 1307 00:58:41,900 --> 00:58:40,020 because they turned it over to the 1308 00:58:44,180 --> 00:58:41,910 Justice Department and said you need to 1309 00:58:46,820 --> 00:58:44,190 continue to investigate this and just 1310 00:58:49,550 --> 00:58:46,830 Department did not in fact all they did 1311 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:49,560 was go to the Academy of Sciences and 1312 00:58:54,740 --> 00:58:52,410 hand-picked a panel that then called 1313 00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:54,750 into question their acoustical studies 1314 00:59:00,860 --> 00:58:57,330 proving that there was a second gunman 1315 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:00,870 on the grassy knoll so the question 1316 00:59:04,310 --> 00:59:02,970 you're really trying to ask is will 1317 00:59:06,620 --> 00:59:04,320 there come a time when a government 1318 00:59:07,940 --> 00:59:06,630 official or some standing will get up in 1319 00:59:10,340 --> 00:59:07,950 front of people and have a press 1320 00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:10,350 conference they okay okay here's the 1321 00:59:14,570 --> 00:59:11,850 truth about what happened at the Kennedy 1322 00:59:16,670 --> 00:59:14,580 assassination no that's not gonna happen 1323 00:59:18,710 --> 00:59:16,680 okay because there's too many 1324 00:59:20,390 --> 00:59:18,720 politicians who don't want to fade the 1325 00:59:22,970 --> 00:59:20,400 heat and don't want to get up and say 1326 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:22,980 okay okay we misdirected you and mislead 1327 00:59:26,630 --> 00:59:24,450 you we lied to you 1328 00:59:28,580 --> 00:59:26,640 you know for 53 years they're just not 1329 00:59:30,020 --> 00:59:28,590 going to do that but when you say well 1330 00:59:32,090 --> 00:59:30,030 we know the truth the truth out there 1331 00:59:34,910 --> 00:59:32,100 right now for anybody who wants to take 1332 00:59:37,370 --> 00:59:34,920 the time to stop and look at all the 1333 00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:37,380 evidence and actually think objectively 1334 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:39,570 about the whole thing and not just 1335 00:59:45,740 --> 00:59:42,210 listen to the mainstream media which is 1336 00:59:47,630 --> 00:59:45,750 rife with people on the CIA payroll one 1337 00:59:48,980 --> 00:59:47,640 way or another and they've been giving 1338 00:59:51,650 --> 00:59:48,990 us this you know it's really interesting 1339 00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:51,660 guys I went back and I found out that 1340 00:59:56,660 --> 00:59:54,450 the polls taken in 1964 just a few 1341 00:59:58,610 --> 00:59:56,670 months after the assassination showed 1342 01:00:02,090 --> 00:59:58,620 that the vast majority of people did not 1343 01:00:04,910 --> 01:00:02,100 believe the single assassin theory that 1344 01:00:07,700 --> 01:00:04,920 was 1964 and today now it's up around 80 1345 01:00:09,650 --> 01:00:07,710 percent or so they do not believe the 1346 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:09,660 single assassin theory and yet that's 1347 01:00:16,190 --> 01:00:13,050 the story that still being pushed by the 1348 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:16,200 corporate mainstream media well the 1349 01:00:22,030 --> 01:00:19,290 other problem is here if it was shown 1350 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:22,040 that Johnson was part of the conspiracy 1351 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:25,770 that would make just about anything he 1352 01:00:29,750 --> 01:00:27,690 did a legitimate that's a criminal he 1353 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:29,760 shouldn't have been president right 1354 01:00:33,140 --> 01:00:31,770 how therefore do you back date 1355 01:00:35,300 --> 01:00:33,150 everything he did and of course you 1356 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:35,310 can't you can't and that's why the 1357 01:00:39,890 --> 01:00:37,650 status quo is gonna fight tooth and 1358 01:00:42,050 --> 01:00:39,900 toenail to remain just like it is and 1359 01:00:44,330 --> 01:00:42,060 the history books are slowly changing 1360 01:00:45,049 --> 01:00:44,340 their story must be Lee Harvey Oswald 1361 01:00:46,909 --> 01:00:45,059 did it Pierre 1362 01:00:49,009 --> 01:00:46,919 now it's well there's some question 1363 01:00:50,329 --> 01:00:49,019 about leaving Harvey Oswald and in the 1364 01:00:52,249 --> 01:00:50,339 future maybe we'll finally getting 1365 01:00:55,039 --> 01:00:52,259 somewhere where well you know he may 1366 01:00:56,809 --> 01:00:55,049 well have not have killed anybody just 1367 01:00:59,870 --> 01:00:56,819 like he said he did he said I didn't 1368 01:01:02,419 --> 01:00:59,880 shoot anybody I'm just a patsy okay but 1369 01:01:04,969 --> 01:01:02,429 you're absolutely right if this should 1370 01:01:07,219 --> 01:01:04,979 become widely known become absolutely 1371 01:01:09,829 --> 01:01:07,229 come public knowledge and we all 1372 01:01:11,359 --> 01:01:09,839 understand that there was a coup in 1963 1373 01:01:13,279 --> 01:01:11,369 well then every government since then 1374 01:01:15,349 --> 01:01:13,289 has been illegitimate all the laws 1375 01:01:17,929 --> 01:01:15,359 passed all the regulations everything 1376 01:01:19,429 --> 01:01:17,939 else you know you should go by the board 1377 01:01:21,380 --> 01:01:19,439 because it was done by the illegal 1378 01:01:23,870 --> 01:01:21,390 government and so they will never admit 1379 01:01:26,659 --> 01:01:23,880 to that and as you say it's not just 1380 01:01:28,579 --> 01:01:26,669 Johnson it's the people who worked in 1381 01:01:30,919 --> 01:01:28,589 his administration who have to be too 1382 01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:30,929 hard the conspiracy you have to look at 1383 01:01:35,989 --> 01:01:33,650 all the consequences the Vietnam War 1384 01:01:38,479 --> 01:01:35,999 everything else I understand the 1385 01:01:40,399 --> 01:01:38,489 impossibility so that's where it stands 1386 01:01:42,469 --> 01:01:40,409 let's move on to other subjects because 1387 01:01:44,630 --> 01:01:42,479 I don't want to make this just about the 1388 01:01:49,399 --> 01:01:44,640 Kennedy assassination yeah but that was 1389 01:01:51,969 --> 01:01:49,409 fun it was it was and it always is fun 1390 01:01:54,649 --> 01:01:51,979 to talk about but if we're looking at 1391 01:01:59,120 --> 01:01:54,659 conspiracies do we assume just quickly 1392 01:01:59,989 --> 01:01:59,130 that RFK and his shooting was part of 1393 01:02:04,429 --> 01:01:59,999 the same thing 1394 01:02:07,279 --> 01:02:04,439 of course there's both both were CIA 1395 01:02:10,009 --> 01:02:07,289 operations and we can see the same thing 1396 01:02:11,859 --> 01:02:10,019 kind of beginning to mount right now 1397 01:02:14,959 --> 01:02:11,869 right now it's the Trump administration 1398 01:02:16,549 --> 01:02:14,969 versus the CIA they're the ones that's 1399 01:02:18,529 --> 01:02:16,559 been putting out all this stuff they're 1400 01:02:20,799 --> 01:02:18,539 the ones whose claim that the Russians 1401 01:02:24,229 --> 01:02:20,809 you know we're working with the Trump 1402 01:02:26,779 --> 01:02:24,239 people and and trying to fudge the 1403 01:02:28,609 --> 01:02:26,789 election and yet and yet there's never 1404 01:02:30,709 --> 01:02:28,619 been any real evidence coming forward 1405 01:02:33,589 --> 01:02:30,719 that that's the case in fact the person 1406 01:02:36,380 --> 01:02:33,599 who has confessed to leaking the wiki 1407 01:02:39,259 --> 01:02:36,390 leak females was work for the Democratic 1408 01:02:41,839 --> 01:02:39,269 National Committee so you know well that 1409 01:02:43,089 --> 01:02:41,849 is not what happened but if you want to 1410 01:02:46,009 --> 01:02:43,099 believe that that's your privilege 1411 01:02:47,989 --> 01:02:46,019 listen there is so much BS being 1412 01:02:50,029 --> 01:02:47,999 floating around right now today that's 1413 01:02:51,469 --> 01:02:50,039 not even funny and you can't tell player 1414 01:02:53,630 --> 01:02:51,479 without a program and I don't think 1415 01:02:55,549 --> 01:02:53,640 anybody's got a 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UFOs and that they are 1554 01:08:40,390 --> 01:08:38,510 extraterrestrial of course here in the 1555 01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:40,400 para cast we go into a lot of theories 1556 01:08:46,780 --> 01:08:43,690 but when you say we're kind of being 1557 01:08:50,350 --> 01:08:46,790 acquainted with the possibility is that 1558 01:08:52,570 --> 01:08:50,360 due to the discovery of these exoplanets 1559 01:08:55,660 --> 01:08:52,580 we had seven just the other day orbiting 1560 01:08:57,550 --> 01:08:55,670 one dwarf star is that say okay we're 1561 01:09:00,970 --> 01:08:57,560 now going to get people comfortable with 1562 01:09:02,620 --> 01:09:00,980 life in space look at all these planets 1563 01:09:06,430 --> 01:09:02,630 we've discovered them there many more 1564 01:09:08,890 --> 01:09:06,440 that may have life possibly similar to 1565 01:09:11,470 --> 01:09:08,900 ours is that part of it absolutely 1566 01:09:13,900 --> 01:09:11,480 that's just one of the latest steps in 1567 01:09:16,330 --> 01:09:13,910 the conditioning process to condition 1568 01:09:18,190 --> 01:09:16,340 the public to the idea that there's life 1569 01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:18,200 outside the earth and intelligent life 1570 01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:21,410 court wanted to tell you gene was as a 1571 01:09:26,230 --> 01:09:23,810 young reporter and I heard they were 1572 01:09:28,500 --> 01:09:26,240 saying well it's just possibly a mass 1573 01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:28,510 psychosis and I'm thinking wow 1574 01:09:31,999 --> 01:09:31,610 heretofore undiscovered contagious mass 1575 01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:32,009 I 1576 01:09:36,379 --> 01:09:35,130 now there's a story right there but of 1577 01:09:38,450 --> 01:09:36,389 course you don't hear that anymore 1578 01:09:40,579 --> 01:09:38,460 because with the advent of the camcorder 1579 01:09:43,039 --> 01:09:40,589 and the iPhone everybody's taking 1580 01:09:46,069 --> 01:09:43,049 pictures of you have foes today and even 1581 01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:46,079 if you discount half of them as some 1582 01:09:50,749 --> 01:09:48,210 sort of hoax that still leaves the other 1583 01:09:52,279 --> 01:09:50,759 half after it's unexplained so we now 1584 01:09:54,169 --> 01:09:52,289 know there's really no question there's 1585 01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:54,179 UFOs there's something flying around and 1586 01:09:59,390 --> 01:09:57,449 it's not ours okay and the thing is the 1587 01:10:02,240 --> 01:09:59,400 conditioning process has worked quite 1588 01:10:03,979 --> 01:10:02,250 well the national polls in the 50s 1589 01:10:07,310 --> 01:10:03,989 showed that the vast majority of people 1590 01:10:08,899 --> 01:10:07,320 I'm talking 90 percent maybe more did 1591 01:10:11,089 --> 01:10:08,909 not believe there was any kind of life 1592 01:10:14,089 --> 01:10:11,099 outside the earth I know this because my 1593 01:10:16,580 --> 01:10:14,099 Baptist parents were one of them all 1594 01:10:18,109 --> 01:10:16,590 right and now today the national polls 1595 01:10:20,750 --> 01:10:18,119 show the quite the opposite 1596 01:10:23,330 --> 01:10:20,760 85 90 percent or more of the people 1597 01:10:25,850 --> 01:10:23,340 queried say yeah they're ready to accept 1598 01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:25,860 the idea that there's extraterrestrial 1599 01:10:32,890 --> 01:10:28,050 intelligent life now you know that's 1600 01:10:35,540 --> 01:10:32,900 quite a turnaround in 50 60 years and 1601 01:10:38,089 --> 01:10:35,550 and so that shows that the conditioning 1602 01:10:40,330 --> 01:10:38,099 process has been working quite well and 1603 01:10:44,270 --> 01:10:40,340 yes the recent discovery of these 1604 01:10:46,879 --> 01:10:44,280 exoplanets I think that adds to it we 1605 01:10:49,129 --> 01:10:46,889 also have a course we just keep getting 1606 01:10:50,750 --> 01:10:49,139 these driblets of information for 1607 01:10:52,700 --> 01:10:50,760 example when I was in school we were 1608 01:10:54,410 --> 01:10:52,710 taught the moon was just a dead world it 1609 01:10:58,129 --> 01:10:54,420 was just a rock there's nothing there no 1610 01:11:00,470 --> 01:10:58,139 atmosphere no magnetic field no water 1611 01:11:02,870 --> 01:11:00,480 and now we know that that's simply not 1612 01:11:06,410 --> 01:11:02,880 true there is a magnetic field weak but 1613 01:11:08,209 --> 01:11:06,420 it's there and there is water they can 1614 01:11:10,970 --> 01:11:08,219 be seeing water drifting across them 1615 01:11:13,129 --> 01:11:10,980 then there's you know most in fact most 1616 01:11:15,410 --> 01:11:13,139 of what we were taught early on about 1617 01:11:18,529 --> 01:11:15,420 space and the other planets is proven 1618 01:11:21,470 --> 01:11:18,539 not to be true so we're still 1619 01:11:24,109 --> 01:11:21,480 discovering what our true universe is 1620 01:11:26,919 --> 01:11:24,119 all about right but just having the 1621 01:11:29,299 --> 01:11:26,929 presence of water doesn't guarantee 1622 01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:29,309 intelligent life it might make it easier 1623 01:11:34,069 --> 01:11:31,530 to self a base though if you have a 1624 01:11:36,620 --> 01:11:34,079 local water stream I was reading a thing 1625 01:11:39,290 --> 01:11:36,630 that long back is interesting unit they 1626 01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:39,300 figured the cost of building a base on 1627 01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:43,330 the moon could be a few hundred dollars 1628 01:11:47,190 --> 01:11:45,730 few hundred dollars because they said 1629 01:11:49,230 --> 01:11:47,200 look all you got to do is get some 1630 01:11:51,900 --> 01:11:49,240 plastic and stretch it across one of 1631 01:11:53,970 --> 01:11:51,910 those smaller craters and then pump some 1632 01:11:57,180 --> 01:11:53,980 oxygen in and you've got a perfectly 1633 01:12:02,310 --> 01:11:57,190 good living environment it's a bit of a 1634 01:12:06,450 --> 01:12:02,320 stretch why would that work you know 1635 01:12:09,270 --> 01:12:06,460 unless it gives you a reason to go there 1636 01:12:13,440 --> 01:12:09,280 according to some researchers we've 1637 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:13,450 already used the potential bounty from 1638 01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:16,330 the moon helium-3 and other rare and 1639 01:12:20,460 --> 01:12:17,850 important minerals we've already 1640 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:20,470 collateralized that for the national 1641 01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:22,570 debt and we don't really own any of that 1642 01:12:26,220 --> 01:12:23,410 material 1643 01:12:28,110 --> 01:12:26,230 well yeah but I can recall before we 1644 01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:28,120 went to the moon the idea was we were 1645 01:12:32,550 --> 01:12:30,130 gonna set up a colony there we were 1646 01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:32,560 gonna mine the resources of the moon and 1647 01:12:36,750 --> 01:12:34,170 it was gonna pay for the space program 1648 01:12:39,450 --> 01:12:36,760 instead we're told we went there six 1649 01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:39,460 times thirty years ago and decided well 1650 01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:41,410 there's really not much there costs a 1651 01:12:45,300 --> 01:12:42,850 lot of money go there we're just not 1652 01:12:47,790 --> 01:12:45,310 gonna go back to me that makes really 1653 01:12:50,370 --> 01:12:47,800 little or no sense for one thing and 1654 01:12:52,110 --> 01:12:50,380 this world of ours that's you know the 1655 01:12:57,210 --> 01:12:52,120 kind of the environment is being 1656 01:12:59,580 --> 01:12:57,220 degraded because of the human habitation 1657 01:13:02,880 --> 01:12:59,590 and there's the human population is 1658 01:13:05,790 --> 01:13:02,890 swelling in numbers obviously the the 1659 01:13:08,850 --> 01:13:05,800 secret is to move into space and so why 1660 01:13:11,190 --> 01:13:08,860 we stopped maybe for my money I think we 1661 01:13:13,050 --> 01:13:11,200 were warned off I think we were told 1662 01:13:14,730 --> 01:13:13,060 okay you made it to the moon but that's 1663 01:13:16,230 --> 01:13:14,740 it you're not going anywhere else not 1664 01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:16,240 until you do away with your atomic 1665 01:13:21,180 --> 01:13:18,330 weapons and quit acting like savages 1666 01:13:24,330 --> 01:13:21,190 right but what about the stories that go 1667 01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:24,340 around that we do have an alternate or 1668 01:13:29,850 --> 01:13:26,770 black project space program and we are 1669 01:13:31,890 --> 01:13:29,860 over there but obviously what we're 1670 01:13:34,590 --> 01:13:31,900 engaged in is not made public for some 1671 01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:34,600 reason what about that yes I do believe 1672 01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:37,690 in that in fact with work gary mckinnon 1673 01:13:42,540 --> 01:13:39,610 did when he showed the officers and the 1674 01:13:45,510 --> 01:13:42,550 command order of the space fleet and we 1675 01:13:46,950 --> 01:13:45,520 look at the fact of everything going the 1676 01:13:49,110 --> 01:13:46,960 fact that we've got things coming and 1677 01:13:50,580 --> 01:13:49,120 going out of area 51 that we don't know 1678 01:13:53,580 --> 01:13:50,590 anything about it not been announced 1679 01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:53,590 publicly to us yes I think it's entirely 1680 01:13:56,790 --> 01:13:56,290 possible that we do have operations in 1681 01:13:58,770 --> 01:13:56,800 space 1682 01:14:01,859 --> 01:13:58,780 right now they're just not telling us 1683 01:14:04,530 --> 01:14:01,869 and I'm not real certain I can't tell 1684 01:14:06,870 --> 01:14:04,540 you definitively why that is you would 1685 01:14:09,149 --> 01:14:06,880 think that we would should be operating 1686 01:14:11,729 --> 01:14:09,159 from a standpoint of openness and 1687 01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:11,739 transparency and then my best guess is 1688 01:14:14,850 --> 01:14:13,210 the reason that they don't want to say 1689 01:14:16,979 --> 01:14:14,860 that it's because the people who 1690 01:14:19,169 --> 01:14:16,989 actually run this country and I'm going 1691 01:14:21,030 --> 01:14:19,179 to talk about the figureheads like the 1692 01:14:22,859 --> 01:14:21,040 president of the Congress I'm talking 1693 01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:22,869 about the money to people who actually 1694 01:14:28,319 --> 01:14:25,570 run this country who control Wall Street 1695 01:14:30,660 --> 01:14:28,329 ok control the giant multinational 1696 01:14:34,589 --> 01:14:30,670 corporations I don't think they care if 1697 01:14:36,689 --> 01:14:34,599 we know there's alien life out there ok 1698 01:14:39,180 --> 01:14:36,699 what they care about though is if we 1699 01:14:40,950 --> 01:14:39,190 know for absolute certain that there's 1700 01:14:43,649 --> 01:14:40,960 alien laughing that they have technology 1701 01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:43,659 beyond ours then we know for certain 1702 01:14:49,470 --> 01:14:46,170 that there's technology other than 1703 01:14:52,189 --> 01:14:49,480 petroleum that we could be using for 1704 01:14:54,689 --> 01:14:52,199 energy and pharmaceuticals and 1705 01:14:57,959 --> 01:14:54,699 telecommunications and and so that might 1706 01:15:00,240 --> 01:14:57,969 prove hazardous to their monopolies and 1707 01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:00,250 we get to petroleum when you get to 1708 01:15:05,310 --> 01:15:02,170 magnesium when you get to some of the 1709 01:15:08,310 --> 01:15:05,320 basic mineral resources of this planet 1710 01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:08,320 that we need to build our modern 1711 01:15:12,959 --> 01:15:11,170 technological civilization is under the 1712 01:15:16,620 --> 01:15:12,969 control that Senator monopolistic 1713 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:16,630 control of a handful of people the 1% if 1714 01:15:21,660 --> 01:15:19,449 you will but again the obvious question 1715 01:15:23,850 --> 01:15:21,670 that any skeptic would immediately pose 1716 01:15:27,510 --> 01:15:23,860 would be how could you keep such a 1717 01:15:30,089 --> 01:15:27,520 massive amount of infrastructure work 1718 01:15:31,830 --> 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01:21:28,190 --> 01:21:25,940 okay so let's continue with all these 1872 01:21:30,380 --> 01:21:28,200 possibilities here now the other thing 1873 01:21:31,340 --> 01:21:30,390 I'm wondering here in terms of 1874 01:21:34,340 --> 01:21:31,350 possibilities 1875 01:21:36,650 --> 01:21:34,350 if you funnel all this activity into 1876 01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:36,660 private industry it makes it a lot 1877 01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:39,090 easier to keep a secret doesn't it right 1878 01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:41,370 and I think that's why they're moving in 1879 01:21:45,710 --> 01:21:43,290 that direction right now with for 1880 01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:45,720 instance SpaceX but you know even the 1881 01:21:49,820 --> 01:21:47,610 government actually can keep secret 1882 01:21:52,070 --> 01:21:49,830 there were more than 30,000 people 1883 01:21:53,930 --> 01:21:52,080 working on the Manhattan Project which 1884 01:21:57,500 --> 01:21:53,940 was developing the atom bomb during 1885 01:21:59,240 --> 01:21:57,510 World War two and nobody talked okay in 1886 01:22:01,340 --> 01:21:59,250 the public didn't know anything about 1887 01:22:03,770 --> 01:22:01,350 the atom bomb until we drop one on 1888 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:03,780 Hiroshima okay but that was also at a 1889 01:22:11,330 --> 01:22:08,010 time during World War two so certainly 1890 01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:11,340 there were more concerns about keeping 1891 01:22:16,430 --> 01:22:14,250 information a secret it wasn't quite 1892 01:22:18,500 --> 01:22:16,440 what it is today when people don't trust 1893 01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:18,510 the government then we believe in the 1894 01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:20,010 government we believe what the news 1895 01:22:23,930 --> 01:22:22,530 media was telling us Chris is kind of 1896 01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:23,940 before my time but that's the impression 1897 01:22:28,970 --> 01:22:26,250 I have so it was very much different 1898 01:22:29,450 --> 01:22:28,980 very different environment then than 1899 01:22:31,340 --> 01:22:29,460 there is now 1900 01:22:33,500 --> 01:22:31,350 let me give you a good example of that 1901 01:22:35,480 --> 01:22:33,510 the Japanese were experimenting with 1902 01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:35,490 what they call fuego balloons or fire 1903 01:22:40,550 --> 01:22:38,130 balloons and they were incendiary 1904 01:22:43,190 --> 01:22:40,560 devices on a balloon and they flowed 1905 01:22:45,470 --> 01:22:43,200 them across the Pacific the idea that 1906 01:22:47,810 --> 01:22:45,480 they would run out of air or run out of 1907 01:22:50,660 --> 01:22:47,820 steam you know somewhere in the 1908 01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:50,670 northwest in Washington State Oregon in 1909 01:22:54,440 --> 01:22:52,530 Northern California and when they come 1910 01:22:56,450 --> 01:22:54,450 down they'd start fires and they start 1911 01:22:58,760 --> 01:22:56,460 giant forest fires you know and it would 1912 01:23:00,830 --> 01:22:58,770 take a lot of people - away from the war 1913 01:23:04,070 --> 01:23:00,840 effort to go fight the fires plus it was 1914 01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:04,080 a demoralizing thing you know okay we'll 1915 01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:06,570 see that was their secret weapon and and 1916 01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:08,850 as a result nobody in the United States 1917 01:23:13,490 --> 01:23:10,770 knew about this except some of the 1918 01:23:16,790 --> 01:23:13,500 military intelligence people well one of 1919 01:23:18,890 --> 01:23:16,800 them went so far as Kansas and landed in 1920 01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:18,900 Kansas and one of the local reporters 1921 01:23:24,650 --> 01:23:22,410 went out and saw it was and and was wow 1922 01:23:26,930 --> 01:23:24,660 what a story here Japanese secret 1923 01:23:28,460 --> 01:23:26,940 weapons being dropped over in Kansas you 1924 01:23:30,410 --> 01:23:28,470 know then that would've been a heck of a 1925 01:23:32,690 --> 01:23:30,420 story in the middle of the war well the 1926 01:23:35,810 --> 01:23:32,700 FBI went to her and said look this is 1927 01:23:36,020 --> 01:23:35,820 secret no it is one of the purposes of 1928 01:23:38,900 --> 01:23:36,030 the 1929 01:23:41,180 --> 01:23:38,910 is to spread terror and to cause chaos 1930 01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:41,190 we can't tell you what to write and what 1931 01:23:45,650 --> 01:23:42,570 not to write that was a whole different 1932 01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:45,660 era said but we think it would be in the 1933 01:23:49,940 --> 01:23:47,610 best interest of the public if you just 1934 01:23:52,550 --> 01:23:49,950 not right about that just now being a 1935 01:23:55,610 --> 01:23:52,560 patriotic American citizen she said okay 1936 01:23:57,380 --> 01:23:55,620 and she didn't until after the war then 1937 01:23:59,930 --> 01:23:57,390 she wrote I think a book about it or at 1938 01:24:02,660 --> 01:23:59,940 least big article so see that's what it 1939 01:24:05,210 --> 01:24:02,670 was then there was patriotism but hey I 1940 01:24:06,590 --> 01:24:05,220 could patriotism people who thought they 1941 01:24:09,050 --> 01:24:06,600 were doing good for their country 1942 01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:09,060 unfortunately today we still have the 1943 01:24:13,100 --> 01:24:10,890 same thing there's so many people who 1944 01:24:15,380 --> 01:24:13,110 are doing things are not doing things 1945 01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:15,390 because they were are told to or asked 1946 01:24:20,570 --> 01:24:17,610 to by the government in the name of 1947 01:24:24,440 --> 01:24:20,580 national security but they have abused 1948 01:24:27,110 --> 01:24:24,450 that term for so long and so widely that 1949 01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:27,120 a lot of people and that's Ian I noticed 1950 01:24:31,370 --> 01:24:29,370 the skepticism in your voice too about 1951 01:24:34,670 --> 01:24:31,380 maybe we don't need to have all this 1952 01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:34,680 secrecy well okay let's just look at 1953 01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:37,170 this now so we have the secret space 1954 01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:40,290 program are we using that to communicate 1955 01:24:45,590 --> 01:24:43,170 with et then well according to some of 1956 01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:45,600 the reports yes again we don't know 1957 01:24:48,710 --> 01:24:47,250 because they're not admitting to it it's 1958 01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:48,720 just like they're not even admitting 1959 01:24:53,150 --> 01:24:50,970 that they're spraying us with aluminum 1960 01:24:55,850 --> 01:24:53,160 oxide and barium and other heavy metals 1961 01:24:57,800 --> 01:24:55,860 known as chemtrails they just act like 1962 01:24:59,990 --> 01:24:57,810 that's not happening and yet well yeah 1963 01:25:02,210 --> 01:25:00,000 just look up and you see those trails 1964 01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:02,220 going from Horizon to Horizon when they 1965 01:25:06,530 --> 01:25:03,930 don't dissipate they don't evaporate 1966 01:25:08,510 --> 01:25:06,540 they spread out and pretty soon you got 1967 01:25:10,310 --> 01:25:08,520 a milky white sky and it's dumping 1968 01:25:12,830 --> 01:25:10,320 chemicals on us that we have to breathe 1969 01:25:15,950 --> 01:25:12,840 and then we wonder why every other 1970 01:25:18,380 --> 01:25:15,960 person's now using an inhaler when I was 1971 01:25:20,510 --> 01:25:18,390 a kid we didn't have inhalers we ran all 1972 01:25:22,490 --> 01:25:20,520 over the place and I didn't know I don't 1973 01:25:25,730 --> 01:25:22,500 think I'm not sure we had a gang of 1974 01:25:28,970 --> 01:25:25,740 Jenner 15 kids and I don't remember any 1975 01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:28,980 of them having bronchial problems or 1976 01:25:33,710 --> 01:25:31,050 asthma and having to suck on inhaler and 1977 01:25:35,870 --> 01:25:33,720 today it's like one every two three kids 1978 01:25:37,820 --> 01:25:35,880 got one I'm one of them I've been 1979 01:25:40,610 --> 01:25:37,830 dealing with this yeah I've been 1980 01:25:42,860 --> 01:25:40,620 diagnosed adult onset asthma never had 1981 01:25:46,070 --> 01:25:42,870 it before but till they started 1982 01:25:48,620 --> 01:25:46,080 chemtrail in right in lithium everybody 1983 01:25:49,070 --> 01:25:48,630 thought silver yeah but if they won't 1984 01:25:50,690 --> 01:25:49,080 even 1985 01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:50,700 meant to something then I already have 1986 01:25:54,530 --> 01:25:52,890 to do is look up and see it for yourself 1987 01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:54,540 they're not gonna tell us secret space 1988 01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:56,130 program we add there's no way the 1989 01:25:58,790 --> 01:25:56,970 average guy 1990 01:26:00,770 --> 01:25:58,800 we can't go to space to find out if 1991 01:26:05,510 --> 01:26:00,780 there's anything there or not Robert 1992 01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:05,520 Bigelow can well yeah okay I take what 1993 01:26:09,440 --> 01:26:07,890 you give me Robert big loves money and 1994 01:26:15,140 --> 01:26:09,450 then I'll tell you what's really going 1995 01:26:17,660 --> 01:26:15,150 on a very exactly good I now we're on 1996 01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:17,670 the outside looking in but I'll tell you 1997 01:26:21,950 --> 01:26:19,290 what there's a lot of people who in the 1998 01:26:23,870 --> 01:26:21,960 past to who recognized this and saw 1999 01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:23,880 everything was coming up I was really 2000 01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:25,530 interested here recently they have found 2001 01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:28,290 a paper a treatise that was written by 2002 01:26:35,060 --> 01:26:32,010 Winston Churchill in 1939 this is before 2003 01:26:36,950 --> 01:26:35,070 World War two started and he was 2004 01:26:39,140 --> 01:26:36,960 basically saying he thought that there 2005 01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:39,150 was probably life outside the earth and 2006 01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:40,370 that we should be interested in 2007 01:26:45,830 --> 01:26:43,050 extraterrestrial life and that kind of 2008 01:26:47,420 --> 01:26:45,840 blows me away because you know we've 2009 01:26:48,980 --> 01:26:47,430 kind of been told that nobody knew 2010 01:26:52,310 --> 01:26:48,990 anything about this or cared about it 2011 01:26:55,550 --> 01:26:52,320 until you know 1947 and the Roswell 2012 01:26:58,160 --> 01:26:55,560 crash and then the sighting of the UFOs 2013 01:27:02,180 --> 01:26:58,170 over a mountaineer and then you know the 2014 01:27:04,220 --> 01:27:02,190 flying saucer flap of the 1950's with it 2015 01:27:05,930 --> 01:27:04,230 you know and it goes on and on the 2016 01:27:08,030 --> 01:27:05,940 science fiction writers had been writing 2017 01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:08,040 about this since the 30s and 40s and one 2018 01:27:12,980 --> 01:27:09,810 of those one of the most prolific was 2019 01:27:15,650 --> 01:27:12,990 believe it or not it was l ron Hubbard 2020 01:27:17,390 --> 01:27:15,660 in fact he wrote a book back maybe early 2021 01:27:20,300 --> 01:27:17,400 eighties called the Battlefield Earth 2022 01:27:23,300 --> 01:27:20,310 they just reissued a new addition to 2023 01:27:25,730 --> 01:27:23,310 that by the way and it's interesting 2024 01:27:27,410 --> 01:27:25,740 because on that one it's not like the 2025 01:27:29,300 --> 01:27:27,420 aliens come and want to blow up the 2026 01:27:31,820 --> 01:27:29,310 earth like it's like in the movie 2027 01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:31,830 Independence Day it's just a business 2028 01:27:35,630 --> 01:27:32,370 deal 2029 01:27:37,940 --> 01:27:35,640 you've got the intergalactic bankers you 2030 01:27:40,550 --> 01:27:37,950 loan money to the intergalactic Mining 2031 01:27:43,190 --> 01:27:40,560 Corporation to come and mine the mineral 2032 01:27:44,780 --> 01:27:43,200 resources of the earth and but they're 2033 01:27:46,850 --> 01:27:44,790 on a contract they have to in this 2034 01:27:48,590 --> 01:27:46,860 certain period of time or the rights to 2035 01:27:50,510 --> 01:27:48,600 the earth are going to revert back to 2036 01:27:53,750 --> 01:27:50,520 the bankers and they'll sell it you know 2037 01:27:55,190 --> 01:27:53,760 to the highest bidder so there and so 2038 01:27:56,300 --> 01:27:55,200 they're trying to hurry up meet their 2039 01:27:59,840 --> 01:27:56,310 deadlines and they're having problems 2040 01:28:02,120 --> 01:27:59,850 with these pesky humans so they have to 2041 01:28:04,610 --> 01:28:02,130 go to the planets I close 2042 01:28:06,710 --> 01:28:04,620 and get these big aliens to come down 2043 01:28:08,690 --> 01:28:06,720 here and try to act as a security force 2044 01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:08,700 so they hurry up get the contract done 2045 01:28:13,700 --> 01:28:10,770 and now one of the things I remember 2046 01:28:16,790 --> 01:28:13,710 about this film is that John Travolta 2047 01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:16,800 played one of these Giants yeah the most 2048 01:28:21,860 --> 01:28:19,530 ridiculous makeup I've ever seen well 2049 01:28:22,610 --> 01:28:21,870 the film is on many people's worst of 2050 01:28:27,590 --> 01:28:22,620 all time 2051 01:28:29,150 --> 01:28:27,600 movies I'll bounce for that too because 2052 01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:29,160 but I'll tell you the problem there was 2053 01:28:33,110 --> 01:28:30,930 because see I'd written the book long 2054 01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:33,120 before the movie came out the book is 2055 01:28:39,110 --> 01:28:36,690 great the movie not so and and come on 2056 01:28:40,430 --> 01:28:39,120 guys you've seen it before where if 2057 01:28:42,050 --> 01:28:40,440 you'll read a book and you see oh 2058 01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:42,060 they're gonna make a movie you go see 2059 01:28:48,470 --> 01:28:43,650 the movie you go for it there's nothing 2060 01:28:50,330 --> 01:28:48,480 like the book Yeah right but but the 2061 01:28:54,650 --> 01:28:50,340 point is that Hubbard was very poor 2062 01:28:56,900 --> 01:28:54,660 looking and he saw that you know maybe 2063 01:28:59,270 --> 01:28:56,910 we should be he was writing about the 2064 01:29:02,120 --> 01:28:59,280 Voyager the Voyager 1 Voyager 2 were 2065 01:29:04,490 --> 01:29:02,130 launched in 1977 and both of them are 2066 01:29:07,580 --> 01:29:04,500 now out past our solar system so they're 2067 01:29:10,490 --> 01:29:07,590 already out in interstellar space and he 2068 01:29:12,020 --> 01:29:10,500 said we should be careful because what 2069 01:29:13,190 --> 01:29:12,030 he might not like and you know if we go 2070 01:29:15,530 --> 01:29:13,200 out there and tell everybody here we are 2071 01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:15,540 and here's how you get to earth we might 2072 01:29:19,490 --> 01:29:17,610 not like who shows up that's what 2073 01:29:23,210 --> 01:29:19,500 Stephen Hawking has been worried he 2074 01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:23,220 recently reiterated that and there may 2075 01:29:27,710 --> 01:29:25,410 be something to that yes think about 2076 01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:27,720 this on Voyager 2 they have a golden 2077 01:29:33,410 --> 01:29:31,170 disc and it's got recordings from the 2078 01:29:36,260 --> 01:29:33,420 earth probably some sounds and animal 2079 01:29:37,430 --> 01:29:36,270 cries and stuff but also music and of 2080 01:29:39,860 --> 01:29:37,440 course sherry 2081 01:29:41,690 --> 01:29:39,870 trying to be good oh yeah Chuck Berry 2082 01:29:46,700 --> 01:29:41,700 Johnny be good can you imagine what 2083 01:29:48,470 --> 01:29:46,710 those aliens are thinking that hold on 2084 01:29:50,390 --> 01:29:48,480 before we get past about l ron Hubbard 2085 01:29:51,740 --> 01:29:50,400 one of the things that I've been most 2086 01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:51,750 you know I've done a little bit of 2087 01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:53,730 research on the man now it's quite an 2088 01:29:57,950 --> 01:29:56,130 enigmatic character and one of the 2089 01:29:59,870 --> 01:29:57,960 things that really intrigued me 2090 01:30:01,310 --> 01:29:59,880 number one is his background in the 2091 01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:01,320 Office of Naval Intelligence and then 2092 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01:35:08,719 you're listening to the para cast the 2204 01:35:22,460 --> 01:35:20,390 we have some questions from listeners 2205 01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:22,470 we'll ask later but Chris asks a 2206 01:35:27,620 --> 01:35:25,250 question of our guest Jim Marrs that now 2207 01:35:30,530 --> 01:35:27,630 Sarah we can have you answer go ahead 2208 01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:30,540 please oh well yeah of course I was 2209 01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:32,250 aware of l ron Hubbard because I read a 2210 01:35:36,470 --> 01:35:33,570 lot of his stuff he you know he's 2211 01:35:38,390 --> 01:35:36,480 writing Western novels and spy novels 2212 01:35:40,700 --> 01:35:38,400 and you know intrigue novels all the way 2213 01:35:42,740 --> 01:35:40,710 back into the 30s but I particularly 2214 01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:42,750 liked his science fiction mission to 2215 01:35:47,780 --> 01:35:45,330 earth is another multi volume thing 2216 01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:47,790 which is just really a hoot and it's 2217 01:35:51,500 --> 01:35:49,410 it's done from the standpoint of the 2218 01:35:55,010 --> 01:35:51,510 alien who comes to the earth and then 2219 01:35:57,470 --> 01:35:55,020 falls into the grips of the CIA and the 2220 01:35:59,180 --> 01:35:57,480 FBI and the Mafia and everybody else and 2221 01:36:01,520 --> 01:35:59,190 you're right Hubbard was pretty dramatic 2222 01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:01,530 but he was also just a very world 2223 01:36:06,860 --> 01:36:04,890 traveler and was what I consider myself 2224 01:36:09,770 --> 01:36:06,870 he was a generalist he knew a lot about 2225 01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:09,780 a little bit a lot of things and he was 2226 01:36:14,780 --> 01:36:12,330 putting it all together so like I said 2227 01:36:17,060 --> 01:36:14,790 he had some really good insights into 2228 01:36:19,970 --> 01:36:17,070 what was really going on and he chose to 2229 01:36:22,250 --> 01:36:19,980 try to share that through his fiction 2230 01:36:24,980 --> 01:36:22,260 but before we get away I got to mention 2231 01:36:25,670 --> 01:36:24,990 that when I was a kid and there was no 2232 01:36:28,550 --> 01:36:25,680 TV 2233 01:36:30,500 --> 01:36:28,560 we'd listen to radio and I would lay in 2234 01:36:32,900 --> 01:36:30,510 bed at night and had the radio on in my 2235 01:36:37,610 --> 01:36:32,910 bedroom and I'd listened to gangbusters 2236 01:36:40,430 --> 01:36:37,620 and and Amos and Andy and the shadow and 2237 01:36:42,230 --> 01:36:40,440 all of these radio dramas and they had 2238 01:36:43,940 --> 01:36:42,240 people who would read the script and 2239 01:36:45,440 --> 01:36:43,950 then they had sound effects you know if 2240 01:36:48,260 --> 01:36:45,450 there was cheating you near the shooting 2241 01:36:50,060 --> 01:36:48,270 and doors slamming and all like that but 2242 01:36:53,210 --> 01:36:50,070 it was all on radio it's all audio and 2243 01:36:55,780 --> 01:36:53,220 so you'd lay there and you would picture 2244 01:36:59,050 --> 01:36:55,790 it all in your mind and it was really an 2245 01:37:01,250 --> 01:36:59,060 exciting and interesting interactive 2246 01:37:02,930 --> 01:37:01,260 experience because they tell you the 2247 01:37:05,870 --> 01:37:02,940 story and you could picture it in your 2248 01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:05,880 own head and I'm just afraid that a lot 2249 01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:07,770 of young people today have missed out on 2250 01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:10,770 that experience because with TV movies 2251 01:37:14,270 --> 01:37:12,330 there it is it's just right there in 2252 01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:14,280 front of you and the monster comes along 2253 01:37:17,090 --> 01:37:15,690 you don't have to wonder about what it 2254 01:37:19,580 --> 01:37:17,100 looks like there he is 2255 01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:19,590 you know and I think that I think 2256 01:37:23,870 --> 01:37:20,970 they're missing something there and it 2257 01:37:25,670 --> 01:37:23,880 keeps your brain active and so the 2258 01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:25,680 reason I bring this up is because they 2259 01:37:31,669 --> 01:37:29,250 now have a audio book of Battlefield 2260 01:37:34,609 --> 01:37:31,679 Earth that is just a 2261 01:37:38,989 --> 01:37:34,619 amazing number one it's 47 and a half 2262 01:37:41,779 --> 01:37:38,999 hours long and it's got the 68 voice 2263 01:37:44,239 --> 01:37:41,789 character actors doing all the voices I 2264 01:37:46,609 --> 01:37:44,249 mean today you can get books on tape of 2265 01:37:48,410 --> 01:37:46,619 course or books on discs or whatever but 2266 01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:48,420 what you get is an actor reading the 2267 01:37:51,500 --> 01:37:49,170 book to you 2268 01:37:53,870 --> 01:37:51,510 this one they act it out and they've got 2269 01:37:56,149 --> 01:37:53,880 all the different voices they got 150 2270 01:37:58,549 --> 01:37:56,159 sound effects they got a whole musical 2271 01:38:01,520 --> 01:37:58,559 score is written just for this audio 2272 01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:01,530 book in fact audiophile magazine has 2273 01:38:07,790 --> 01:38:05,010 named it the best audio book of 2016 2274 01:38:09,799 --> 01:38:07,800 here a few months ago and I just want to 2275 01:38:11,719 --> 01:38:09,809 mention that because I would really 2276 01:38:13,250 --> 01:38:11,729 recommend that you get that if you're a 2277 01:38:15,229 --> 01:38:13,260 truck driver or you're gonna be on a 2278 01:38:17,839 --> 01:38:15,239 long trip or you're or you get stuck in 2279 01:38:20,509 --> 01:38:17,849 lots of traffic every day this would be 2280 01:38:23,330 --> 01:38:20,519 a wonderful opportunity to revisit the 2281 01:38:25,100 --> 01:38:23,340 days when you listen to the story and 2282 01:38:27,140 --> 01:38:25,110 could build the whole thing up in your 2283 01:38:29,839 --> 01:38:27,150 own mind well I think more and more 2284 01:38:32,870 --> 01:38:29,849 people are going with the whole audio 2285 01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:32,880 book concept because you know we're 2286 01:38:36,859 --> 01:38:35,489 stuck in traffic so much and a lot of 2287 01:38:38,839 --> 01:38:36,869 people actually listen to this show 2288 01:38:41,719 --> 01:38:38,849 while they're on their way to work or or 2289 01:38:43,399 --> 01:38:41,729 going on trips or you know stuck in LA 2290 01:38:45,020 --> 01:38:43,409 traffic for instance you know people 2291 01:38:47,149 --> 01:38:45,030 spend a significant portion of their 2292 01:38:50,509 --> 01:38:47,159 lives behind the wheel of the car and 2293 01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:50,519 what better way to pass the time and be 2294 01:38:56,149 --> 01:38:52,650 entertained you by the way we continue 2295 01:38:58,310 --> 01:38:56,159 to be among the top seven streams at GCN 2296 01:39:01,250 --> 01:38:58,320 live and these are people who will be 2297 01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:01,260 streaming stuff to their cars in 2298 01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:02,610 addition of course to being able to 2299 01:39:07,850 --> 01:39:04,650 download the show from iTunes and other 2300 01:39:10,850 --> 01:39:07,860 places to say oh yeah and today with the 2301 01:39:13,250 --> 01:39:10,860 ability to tape everything rs8 tape 2302 01:39:15,949 --> 01:39:13,260 that's old old tech record everything 2303 01:39:18,290 --> 01:39:15,959 that's why when people say well I don't 2304 01:39:21,049 --> 01:39:18,300 have time I can't learn about that yeah 2305 01:39:23,750 --> 01:39:21,059 I just turn up my lip at that because 2306 01:39:25,009 --> 01:39:23,760 hey today with the ability to record 2307 01:39:27,259 --> 01:39:25,019 play things back 2308 01:39:29,299 --> 01:39:27,269 yes we're all pressed for time but like 2309 01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:29,309 you guys mentioned that can be a long 2310 01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:32,010 commute or vacation time or some of our 2311 01:39:38,029 --> 01:39:34,130 are just quit watching some of those 2312 01:39:40,459 --> 01:39:38,039 insipid TV sitcoms or whatever and start 2313 01:39:42,649 --> 01:39:40,469 listening to programs like yours and 2314 01:39:43,810 --> 01:39:42,659 others where you can actually learn 2315 01:39:45,700 --> 01:39:43,820 something 2316 01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:45,710 think I was really going on so you can 2317 01:39:51,550 --> 01:39:48,250 act as an informed and active 2318 01:39:53,730 --> 01:39:51,560 participating since well people I think 2319 01:39:57,670 --> 01:39:53,740 by and large you know they used to say 2320 01:39:59,710 --> 01:39:57,680 the average attention span is is 8 min 8 2321 01:40:01,570 --> 01:39:59,720 seconds well I think it's point 8 2322 01:40:04,030 --> 01:40:01,580 seconds now boy I tell you if something 2323 01:40:05,980 --> 01:40:04,040 if somebody you know one of the kids is 2324 01:40:08,260 --> 01:40:05,990 waiting you know clicks on something 2325 01:40:10,540 --> 01:40:08,270 like a video or something and it doesn't 2326 01:40:11,290 --> 01:40:10,550 immediately show up they're already onto 2327 01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:11,300 the next thing 2328 01:40:16,900 --> 01:40:14,090 yeah so we've seen a real dumbing down 2329 01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:16,910 of the population number one number two 2330 01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:20,090 was seen a homogeneous a ssin of 2331 01:40:28,210 --> 01:40:23,810 information we're also seen what appears 2332 01:40:31,990 --> 01:40:28,220 to be I think a really insidious program 2333 01:40:34,510 --> 01:40:32,000 of dumbing people down and and we're 2334 01:40:37,300 --> 01:40:34,520 going back into slogans and jingoism and 2335 01:40:41,440 --> 01:40:37,310 people just need york responses to 2336 01:40:43,900 --> 01:40:41,450 people places and situations that are 2337 01:40:45,310 --> 01:40:43,910 totally programmed for them and so mass 2338 01:40:48,340 --> 01:40:45,320 mass groups of people are being 2339 01:40:50,770 --> 01:40:48,350 manipulated effortlessly in this you 2340 01:40:52,630 --> 01:40:50,780 know super high-tech media's so gay 2341 01:40:54,970 --> 01:40:52,640 gender you know your points well-taken 2342 01:40:56,880 --> 01:40:54,980 jim we we need more people doing the 2343 01:40:59,080 --> 01:40:56,890 research we need more people you know 2344 01:41:00,880 --> 01:40:59,090 motivated enough to find out for 2345 01:41:02,950 --> 01:41:00,890 themselves find good sources of 2346 01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:02,960 information and and really go with them 2347 01:41:06,610 --> 01:41:05,210 in and unfortunately you know shows like 2348 01:41:08,440 --> 01:41:06,620 this are dying on the vine you know 2349 01:41:10,990 --> 01:41:08,450 because people they don't have the 2350 01:41:14,410 --> 01:41:11,000 attention spans anymore they literally 2351 01:41:17,110 --> 01:41:14,420 don't it's true and and the only place i 2352 01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:17,120 would differ with some folks on that 2353 01:41:22,480 --> 01:41:20,090 issue is that i contend that didn't just 2354 01:41:25,420 --> 01:41:22,490 happen by accident there's been a 2355 01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:25,430 conscious program laid on us to dumbest 2356 01:41:31,750 --> 01:41:28,370 down and to keep us from thinking for 2357 01:41:33,130 --> 01:41:31,760 ourselves you know they do the people 2358 01:41:35,340 --> 01:41:33,140 who are trying to run the world they 2359 01:41:37,300 --> 01:41:35,350 don't really want us thinking and 2360 01:41:39,190 --> 01:41:37,310 figuring out what's really going on 2361 01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:39,200 because we might accidentally get 2362 01:41:42,940 --> 01:41:40,730 together and say hey we don't want this 2363 01:41:45,460 --> 01:41:42,950 and actually it's happening anyway 2364 01:41:46,780 --> 01:41:45,470 because I really believe guys that there 2365 01:41:49,060 --> 01:41:46,790 is kind of a consciousness-raising 2366 01:41:51,580 --> 01:41:49,070 that's taking place on the world today 2367 01:41:54,340 --> 01:41:51,590 and I think two of the best examples is 2368 01:41:56,380 --> 01:41:54,350 the brexit okay where the British 2369 01:41:57,819 --> 01:41:56,390 leaders and the media over there and 2370 01:42:00,520 --> 01:41:57,829 they said oh we don't want to get 2371 01:42:02,319 --> 01:42:00,530 the European Union oh no no this is good 2372 01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:02,329 for international trade it's good for 2373 01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:04,610 the international corporations but the 2374 01:42:09,939 --> 01:42:06,530 public said no we went out we're tired 2375 01:42:12,549 --> 01:42:09,949 of supporting Greece and Italy and these 2376 01:42:13,959 --> 01:42:12,559 other countries that can't make their 2377 01:42:15,729 --> 01:42:13,969 budget works and something getting our 2378 01:42:17,799 --> 01:42:15,739 money Germany's saying the same thing 2379 01:42:20,169 --> 01:42:17,809 and then we saw it right here with this 2380 01:42:22,149 --> 01:42:20,179 just this past election right with the 2381 01:42:24,660 --> 01:42:22,159 election of trouble total total 2382 01:42:27,399 --> 01:42:24,670 repudiation of politics and politicians 2383 01:42:28,780 --> 01:42:27,409 it was a knee-jerk reaction which 2384 01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:28,790 unfortunately is gonna come back and 2385 01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:31,610 bite us big time but it was an 2386 01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:33,530 indication that there's a rumbling in 2387 01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:35,570 the the american pew because i like to 2388 01:42:42,490 --> 01:42:39,650 refer to them let's go back to this gym 2389 01:42:44,790 --> 01:42:42,500 i go back to the gradual revelation 2390 01:42:47,589 --> 01:42:44,800 about the possibility of life in space 2391 01:42:50,260 --> 01:42:47,599 now do the powers that be even want that 2392 01:42:51,850 --> 01:42:50,270 no that's what i said earlier that's the 2393 01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:51,860 whole problem right there if they wanted 2394 01:42:57,069 --> 01:42:54,530 it we'd already have it they in fact you 2395 01:43:00,069 --> 01:42:57,079 know you the big question i kept waiting 2396 01:43:02,350 --> 01:43:00,079 for you to ask this is you know are we 2397 01:43:04,209 --> 01:43:02,360 ever gonna have disclosure you know or 2398 01:43:05,799 --> 01:43:04,219 where we're gonna know and again it's 2399 01:43:07,180 --> 01:43:05,809 back to the same thing that I talked 2400 01:43:09,580 --> 01:43:07,190 about in regards to the Kennedy 2401 01:43:12,129 --> 01:43:09,590 assassination if we're if you're if the 2402 01:43:15,370 --> 01:43:12,139 real question you're asking is will a 2403 01:43:18,609 --> 01:43:15,380 government official get up and say the 2404 01:43:21,669 --> 01:43:18,619 real story ain't gonna happen because 2405 01:43:23,709 --> 01:43:21,679 yeah audition is gonna want to fade the 2406 01:43:26,729 --> 01:43:23,719 heat of getting up and saying okay okay 2407 01:43:30,970 --> 01:43:26,739 we lied to you for 70 years Yeah right 2408 01:43:32,740 --> 01:43:30,980 believe us now I used to tell a story 2409 01:43:34,149 --> 01:43:32,750 here in the power cast with the previous 2410 01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:34,159 president but I think it would apply to 2411 01:43:40,930 --> 01:43:37,730 all of them if they brought on stage II 2412 01:43:43,060 --> 01:43:40,940 to or in my white house front law and 2413 01:43:45,459 --> 01:43:43,070 said okay here's the truth for being 2414 01:43:50,830 --> 01:43:45,469 visited by beings from another planet 2415 01:43:52,270 --> 01:43:50,840 and here is or thon from one of the star 2416 01:43:57,490 --> 01:43:52,280 beings of Zeta Reticuli 2417 01:43:58,089 --> 01:43:57,500 we wouldn't believe them this no yeah 2418 01:44:00,250 --> 01:43:58,099 exactly 2419 01:44:01,780 --> 01:44:00,260 but well see here's the thing you go all 2420 01:44:03,490 --> 01:44:01,790 the way back you go back to the late 40s 2421 01:44:06,220 --> 01:44:03,500 early fifties and that was like 10 years 2422 01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:06,230 after the 1938 War of the Worlds 2423 01:44:09,830 --> 01:44:08,130 broadcast by Orson Welles 2424 01:44:11,260 --> 01:44:09,840 she panics a lot of people around the 2425 01:44:13,580 --> 01:44:11,270 country because they it was on radio 2426 01:44:14,930 --> 01:44:13,590 they didn't catch the first of the 2427 01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:14,940 program where they said this is 2428 01:44:18,860 --> 01:44:17,010 Halloween and we're pulling a gag and 2429 01:44:20,870 --> 01:44:18,870 you know with this we're gonna act like 2430 01:44:22,879 --> 01:44:20,880 this the real invasion they missed that 2431 01:44:26,660 --> 01:44:22,889 part they just tuned in later and heard 2432 01:44:28,430 --> 01:44:26,670 all these phony fall news reports saying 2433 01:44:30,140 --> 01:44:28,440 all the soldiers are landed in New 2434 01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:30,150 Jersey and the these things are coming 2435 01:44:33,709 --> 01:44:31,650 out and they're burning everybody they 2436 01:44:36,620 --> 01:44:33,719 eaten people and destroying the cities 2437 01:44:38,200 --> 01:44:36,630 well no wonder people panicked okay you 2438 01:44:40,820 --> 01:44:38,210 know I'm just ask you about that because 2439 01:44:43,370 --> 01:44:40,830 obviously that happened before you and I 2440 01:44:46,459 --> 01:44:43,380 were born I had read some stories saying 2441 01:44:49,610 --> 01:44:46,469 that the impact was highly exaggerated 2442 01:44:52,700 --> 01:44:49,620 over what it really was it was some 2443 01:44:56,959 --> 01:44:52,710 panic but nowhere near as much was like 2444 01:45:02,419 --> 01:44:56,969 my parents distinctly remember it 2445 01:45:04,490 --> 01:45:02,429 freaking out yeah it's--that's-- depends 2446 01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:04,500 on who you want to listen to and what's 2447 01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:08,370 the decision use no I think I mean in 2448 01:45:12,169 --> 01:45:10,170 the whole total context of the total 2449 01:45:14,090 --> 01:45:12,179 population in the United States it was 2450 01:45:16,490 --> 01:45:14,100 kind of a drop in the bucket it wasn't 2451 01:45:18,379 --> 01:45:16,500 that it wasn't as bad as we saw it 2452 01:45:20,300 --> 01:45:18,389 didn't panic the whole country but it 2453 01:45:22,310 --> 01:45:20,310 panic people up in the Northeast where 2454 01:45:25,399 --> 01:45:22,320 it was taking place and they had not 2455 01:45:28,010 --> 01:45:25,409 heard the the caveat so they they 2456 01:45:30,140 --> 01:45:28,020 thought maybe this is real we have Jim 2457 01:45:39,250 --> 01:45:30,150 Marrs with Gina and Christian in the 2458 01:45:47,699 --> 01:45:43,169 thank you for listening to GCN 2459 01:45:49,919 --> 01:45:47,709 be sure to visit GCN live.com today we 2460 01:45:53,219 --> 01:45:49,929 also have swag you know we have all 2461 01:45:54,060 --> 01:45:53,229 these exclusive para cast things that 2462 01:45:55,979 --> 01:45:54,070 you can buy 2463 01:45:58,799 --> 01:45:55,989 we've got like I guess 60 or so 2464 01:46:02,399 --> 01:45:58,809 different items and entails t-shirts 2465 01:46:05,699 --> 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some of the 2521 01:48:34,149 --> 01:48:29,610 powers that be about revealing what UFOs 2522 01:48:37,159 --> 01:48:34,159 were about that's 1940s so right now as 2523 01:48:39,020 --> 01:48:37,169 I've mentioned I don't believe in 2524 01:48:40,580 --> 01:48:39,030 disclosure either but this possible 2525 01:48:43,639 --> 01:48:40,590 gradual disclosure 2526 01:48:46,819 --> 01:48:43,649 we're being trained to expect things and 2527 01:48:50,119 --> 01:48:46,829 then maybe eventually if we hear that 2528 01:48:53,810 --> 01:48:50,129 there are visitors from another planet 2529 01:48:56,689 --> 01:48:53,820 here we won't be surprised because we've 2530 01:48:59,449 --> 01:48:56,699 been conditioned to expect that exactly 2531 01:49:02,089 --> 01:48:59,459 and look at the difference here in the 2532 01:49:04,250 --> 01:49:02,099 forties and fifties when they heard a 2533 01:49:05,989 --> 01:49:04,260 radio broadcast it's you know even 2534 01:49:07,159 --> 01:49:05,999 though later turned out to be funny but 2535 01:49:08,989 --> 01:49:07,169 they heard it and thought it was real 2536 01:49:10,279 --> 01:49:08,999 where they're saying they're landing and 2537 01:49:12,169 --> 01:49:10,289 they're attacking people and they're 2538 01:49:14,839 --> 01:49:12,179 burning the cities you know no wonder 2539 01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:14,849 people got upset but hate today think 2540 01:49:19,729 --> 01:49:17,010 about it we've been conditioned by Star 2541 01:49:21,919 --> 01:49:19,739 Trek Star Wars your whole generations 2542 01:49:23,810 --> 01:49:21,929 have grown up perfectly comfortable with 2543 01:49:25,009 --> 01:49:23,820 the idea that there's life outside the 2544 01:49:27,169 --> 01:49:25,019 earth and we're going to go out there 2545 01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:27,179 and we're going to be part of it to the 2546 01:49:31,159 --> 01:49:29,010 point to where just think what do you 2547 01:49:33,770 --> 01:49:31,169 think guys if President Trump was to 2548 01:49:35,889 --> 01:49:33,780 come on the TV tomorrow and say we have 2549 01:49:38,119 --> 01:49:35,899 information that we're being visited by 2550 01:49:40,580 --> 01:49:38,129 extraterrestrials people from other 2551 01:49:43,310 --> 01:49:40,590 planets but there doesn't seem to be any 2552 01:49:44,989 --> 01:49:43,320 hostility nobody's been hurt your 2553 01:49:47,330 --> 01:49:44,999 governments on the job we're gonna be 2554 01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:47,340 keeping close tabs on this and we'll let 2555 01:49:51,409 --> 01:49:49,530 you know what we find out personally I 2556 01:49:53,149 --> 01:49:51,419 don't think it would be a big thing I 2557 01:49:55,459 --> 01:49:53,159 think there would be some ripples in the 2558 01:49:57,379 --> 01:49:55,469 media and then you know the bills that 2559 01:49:59,479 --> 01:49:57,389 still come in and everybody just keep 2560 01:50:01,310 --> 01:49:59,489 going on with their life I just don't 2561 01:50:01,909 --> 01:50:01,320 think it would be that big and upset 2562 01:50:04,129 --> 01:50:01,919 today 2563 01:50:06,040 --> 01:50:04,139 yeah but I'd lose a few bets and a few 2564 01:50:08,690 --> 01:50:06,050 hundred dollars 2565 01:50:10,460 --> 01:50:08,700 Chris we have some questions coming in 2566 01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:10,470 from our forums and forum dot for 2567 01:50:14,750 --> 01:50:12,810 podcast.com you want to maybe bring up 2568 01:50:15,950 --> 01:50:14,760 one or two right now well this is 2569 01:50:18,590 --> 01:50:15,960 something that I've always wanted to ask 2570 01:50:22,550 --> 01:50:18,600 Jim you know and I know that you've 2571 01:50:25,970 --> 01:50:22,560 looked into the infamous 1897 Aurora 2572 01:50:26,810 --> 01:50:25,980 Texas ship crash hey thank you for 2573 01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:26,820 bringing that up 2574 01:50:32,270 --> 01:50:28,770 because I want to mention that on April 2575 01:50:34,430 --> 01:50:32,280 the 22nd which is actually it happened 2576 01:50:37,070 --> 01:50:34,440 on April the 17th but that's not a 2577 01:50:40,040 --> 01:50:37,080 weekend so the 22nd which is a Saturday 2578 01:50:42,440 --> 01:50:40,050 they're having a big Aurora alien 2579 01:50:44,300 --> 01:50:42,450 encounter it Aurora Texas the little old 2580 01:50:46,490 --> 01:50:44,310 town in fact I live pretty close to 2581 01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:46,500 there and I'm gonna be there and this 2582 01:50:53,270 --> 01:50:48,930 would be a great opportunity to go to a 2583 01:50:55,700 --> 01:50:53,280 city of Aurora Texas calm and get your 2584 01:50:57,230 --> 01:50:55,710 advance tickets before they go up David 2585 01:50:59,150 --> 01:50:57,240 to hatch your childress it's going to be 2586 01:51:00,800 --> 01:50:59,160 the keynote speaker and they're gonna 2587 01:51:02,870 --> 01:51:00,810 have some speakers and they're gonna 2588 01:51:05,510 --> 01:51:02,880 have some tours of the graveyard where 2589 01:51:08,120 --> 01:51:05,520 they reportedly buried the little alien 2590 01:51:10,580 --> 01:51:08,130 pilot last year was their first time of 2591 01:51:12,530 --> 01:51:10,590 trying to acknowledge this here and it 2592 01:51:15,380 --> 01:51:12,540 was quite a success so this year it 2593 01:51:19,070 --> 01:51:15,390 ought to even be better wondering where 2594 01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:19,080 you come down was this did it happen you 2595 01:51:24,650 --> 01:51:22,170 did not well the skeptics say that the 2596 01:51:26,030 --> 01:51:24,660 railroad was bypassing the town that 2597 01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:26,040 townspeople need to come up with a way 2598 01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:28,530 to to jumpstart tourism there and that 2599 01:51:32,750 --> 01:51:30,090 this this story was concocted as a 2600 01:51:34,220 --> 01:51:32,760 publicity stunt to bring new possible 2601 01:51:39,650 --> 01:51:34,230 tourism into the town kind of like a 2602 01:51:41,390 --> 01:51:39,660 19th century Roswell do we have evidence 2603 01:51:45,530 --> 01:51:41,400 to suggest that this is the real event 2604 01:51:48,380 --> 01:51:45,540 except it didn't work nobody in the town 2605 01:51:50,300 --> 01:51:48,390 still withered away and died and today 2606 01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:50,310 there's not even a gas station here or 2607 01:51:56,090 --> 01:51:53,610 there's not a bank or anything else it's 2608 01:51:58,430 --> 01:51:56,100 just kind of a bump in the road and this 2609 01:52:01,760 --> 01:51:58,440 is kind of like that is similar to the 2610 01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:01,770 idea that Roswell was faint to draw 2611 01:52:06,290 --> 01:52:03,690 attention you know away from their 2612 01:52:09,530 --> 01:52:06,300 secret military stuff going on there in 2613 01:52:11,870 --> 01:52:09,540 New Mexico in 1947 which never made any 2614 01:52:14,210 --> 01:52:11,880 sense to me because you know if you want 2615 01:52:16,419 --> 01:52:14,220 to keep Russians from concentrating and 2616 01:52:17,709 --> 01:52:16,429 putting their own New Mexico and try 2617 01:52:19,660 --> 01:52:17,719 see what they're doing down there you 2618 01:52:22,419 --> 01:52:19,670 don't put out a story that aliens crash 2619 01:52:24,760 --> 01:52:22,429 there you know a driver by every agent 2620 01:52:26,860 --> 01:52:24,770 in the country down there unless you 2621 01:52:28,209 --> 01:52:26,870 want to draw attention there because 2622 01:52:30,250 --> 01:52:28,219 something is happening somewhere else 2623 01:52:31,300 --> 01:52:30,260 because here's an interesting thing I 2624 01:52:34,330 --> 01:52:31,310 don't know if you've read the book 2625 01:52:36,490 --> 01:52:34,340 Roswell in the 21st century from Kevin 2626 01:52:40,930 --> 01:52:36,500 Randle who's been studying Roswell for 2627 01:52:42,990 --> 01:52:40,940 30 years he's been and he has recanted a 2628 01:52:46,479 --> 01:52:43,000 lot of it saying that a lot of the 2629 01:52:48,330 --> 01:52:46,489 eyewitness testimony which started 30 2630 01:52:50,979 --> 01:52:48,340 years after the fact and then went on 2631 01:52:53,140 --> 01:52:50,989 doesn't hold up that something happened 2632 01:52:55,990 --> 01:52:53,150 there but you can't say it's a spaceship 2633 01:52:58,450 --> 01:52:56,000 you can't even find reasonable 2634 01:53:01,600 --> 01:52:58,460 confirmation for the reports of possible 2635 01:53:03,880 --> 01:53:01,610 alien bodies that's just a mysterious 2636 01:53:05,890 --> 01:53:03,890 thing happened and we don't know and 2637 01:53:09,939 --> 01:53:05,900 would you even dismiss the possibility 2638 01:53:11,680 --> 01:53:09,949 that yeah it was a misdirection it was a 2639 01:53:14,350 --> 01:53:11,690 misdirection to have people think about 2640 01:53:16,750 --> 01:53:14,360 spaceships possibly landing at Roswell 2641 01:53:18,850 --> 01:53:16,760 with this little thing of Oh a flying 2642 01:53:21,850 --> 01:53:18,860 disc has landed and it's only a balloon 2643 01:53:23,919 --> 01:53:21,860 and all that stuff that that was the 2644 01:53:25,899 --> 01:53:23,929 misdirection that something happened 2645 01:53:28,060 --> 01:53:25,909 somewhere else that we overlooked I'm 2646 01:53:29,979 --> 01:53:28,070 certainly open to that I mean I'm open 2647 01:53:32,260 --> 01:53:29,989 to anything you can prove some to me I 2648 01:53:34,390 --> 01:53:32,270 pride myself on changing my mind but I 2649 01:53:36,370 --> 01:53:34,400 don't take you guys know the thing that 2650 01:53:38,320 --> 01:53:36,380 convinces me is number one the people 2651 01:53:40,120 --> 01:53:38,330 I've talked to who were directly 2652 01:53:41,590 --> 01:53:40,130 involved okay 2653 01:53:44,050 --> 01:53:41,600 some of them threatened with their life 2654 01:53:45,850 --> 01:53:44,060 if they talked about it alright there's 2655 01:53:47,260 --> 01:53:45,860 something definitely very unusual 2656 01:53:49,090 --> 01:53:47,270 happened there the other thing that 2657 01:53:51,040 --> 01:53:49,100 really convinced me on Roswell 2658 01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:51,050 is because of my work with the remote 2659 01:53:56,590 --> 01:53:53,810 viewing that the army was using to end 2660 01:53:58,300 --> 01:53:56,600 the Cold War and several remote viewers 2661 01:53:59,530 --> 01:53:58,310 but taking a look at Roswell and they 2662 01:54:03,820 --> 01:53:59,540 said there was definitely something 2663 01:54:05,740 --> 01:54:03,830 unearthly going on there okay so yes I 2664 01:54:08,830 --> 01:54:05,750 believe that same thing kind of with 2665 01:54:11,080 --> 01:54:08,840 aurora i began to cover there our story 2666 01:54:12,910 --> 01:54:11,090 in 1973 and i've been keeping up with it 2667 01:54:15,630 --> 01:54:12,920 ever since and like i said i just live a 2668 01:54:18,550 --> 01:54:15,640 few miles from aurora right now and 2669 01:54:22,180 --> 01:54:18,560 early on I was very very skeptical okay 2670 01:54:25,030 --> 01:54:22,190 but then the more I looked into it and 2671 01:54:27,050 --> 01:54:25,040 after I talked to one old man Charlie 2672 01:54:29,150 --> 01:54:27,060 Stevens who was actually a witness 2673 01:54:31,970 --> 01:54:29,160 saw the thing go over saw it hit and 2674 01:54:34,400 --> 01:54:31,980 then in 2013 UFO Hunters came and I 2675 01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:34,410 worked with them they found the footing 2676 01:54:40,250 --> 01:54:37,050 for judge Proctor's win me or winless 2677 01:54:43,540 --> 01:54:40,260 and so yes that story that part of it 2678 01:54:47,930 --> 01:54:43,550 was true they found little bb's of 2679 01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:47,940 malted aluminum embedded in trees and 2680 01:54:52,310 --> 01:54:49,890 rocks around the cross site in other 2681 01:54:55,130 --> 01:54:52,320 words not make it exploded there they 2682 01:54:58,450 --> 01:54:55,140 had the the aluminum tested and although 2683 01:55:01,820 --> 01:54:58,460 it was aluminum it was not the same 2684 01:55:03,380 --> 01:55:01,830 composite as modern-day aluminum and 2685 01:55:06,260 --> 01:55:03,390 then I went back and checked it 2686 01:55:08,090 --> 01:55:06,270 aluminium in 1897 was they had just 2687 01:55:10,880 --> 01:55:08,100 developed the technique for making 2688 01:55:13,490 --> 01:55:10,890 aluminum and it was more expensive than 2689 01:55:15,530 --> 01:55:13,500 gold at that time so you wouldn't have 2690 01:55:18,440 --> 01:55:15,540 just you know stuck some of that stuff 2691 01:55:20,390 --> 01:55:18,450 around so anyway that and the fact that 2692 01:55:22,640 --> 01:55:20,400 the great he's there I was there when I 2693 01:55:25,430 --> 01:55:22,650 actually saw the headstone which showed 2694 01:55:28,700 --> 01:55:25,440 an inverted V with circles kind of like 2695 01:55:31,910 --> 01:55:28,710 a spaceship with portholes and that got 2696 01:55:34,100 --> 01:55:31,920 taken up and missing and then there were 2697 01:55:36,640 --> 01:55:34,110 some metal we found in the grave and 2698 01:55:40,700 --> 01:55:36,650 that was them later he mysteriously 2699 01:55:42,920 --> 01:55:40,710 extracted by you know somebody with some 2700 01:55:45,560 --> 01:55:42,930 sophisticated equipment there's just too 2701 01:55:47,980 --> 01:55:45,570 much going on to it today I'm pretty 2702 01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:47,990 convinced that it really did happen that 2703 01:55:55,940 --> 01:55:52,490 Texas was visited by some non-human 2704 01:55:58,640 --> 01:55:55,950 compliment back in 1897 and keep in mind 2705 01:56:01,550 --> 01:55:58,650 this was six years before the Wright 2706 01:56:03,500 --> 01:56:01,560 brothers flew well and all my work in 2707 01:56:05,390 --> 01:56:03,510 all my years with UFOs I kept thinking 2708 01:56:09,290 --> 01:56:05,400 boy would it be great if there was a 2709 01:56:11,360 --> 01:56:09,300 well documented UFO incident that 2710 01:56:13,220 --> 01:56:11,370 occurred before there was anything in 2711 01:56:15,170 --> 01:56:13,230 the air because you know all my life 2712 01:56:17,570 --> 01:56:15,180 they were saying it was just mrs. 2713 01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:17,580 densified satellites and aircraft and 2714 01:56:20,990 --> 01:56:19,290 blah blah blah well how about if there 2715 01:56:23,870 --> 01:56:21,000 was nothing like that in the air that's 2716 01:56:26,470 --> 01:56:23,880 a shock filet and Chris avec wrote 2717 01:56:29,330 --> 01:56:26,480 wonders in the sky with 500 examples of 2718 01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:29,340 unusual unexplained aerial occurrences 2719 01:56:34,370 --> 01:56:32,490 documented before 1880 exactly that's 2720 01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:34,380 true in fact you can go all the way back 2721 01:56:39,350 --> 01:56:36,570 to the Bible the zekiel is firing wheel 2722 01:56:40,910 --> 01:56:39,360 you go all the way back to the Sumerians 2723 01:56:42,740 --> 01:56:40,920 the world's first grapes 2724 01:56:44,990 --> 01:56:42,750 technologically advanced civilization 2725 01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:45,000 and they they wrote down on the clay 2726 01:56:49,910 --> 01:56:47,370 tablets which still 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02:01:40,420 dangers learn more at blackhat pocket 2837 02:01:44,580 --> 02:01:42,370 comm or call eight eight eight three one 2838 02:01:55,560 --> 02:01:44,590 five nine six one eight block it pocket 2839 02:01:57,300 --> 02:01:55,570 comm enhancing health and privacy hi 2840 02:01:59,160 --> 02:01:57,310 this is Bryce Abel I'm the producer of 2841 02:02:01,080 --> 02:01:59,170 dark skies the co-author of AD after 2842 02:02:03,230 --> 02:02:01,090 disclosure and you are listening to the 2843 02:02:05,610 --> 02:02:03,240 para cast the gold standard of 2844 02:02:12,319 --> 02:02:05,620 paranormal radio 2845 02:02:14,790 --> 02:02:12,329 [Music] 2846 02:02:16,589 --> 02:02:14,800 so we don't have to worry that eet is 2847 02:02:18,299 --> 02:02:16,599 here to harm us rather than help us 2848 02:02:20,790 --> 02:02:18,309 unless it's a different race of ET of 2849 02:02:23,280 --> 02:02:20,800 course but what about the possibility 2850 02:02:27,629 --> 02:02:23,290 here which sometimes we mentioned Jim 2851 02:02:29,640 --> 02:02:27,639 Marrs that we were seeded here by the 2852 02:02:32,790 --> 02:02:29,650 aliens or they did some genetic 2853 02:02:34,799 --> 02:02:32,800 manipulation with the locals but we were 2854 02:02:36,330 --> 02:02:34,809 brought here that we're actually the 2855 02:02:39,569 --> 02:02:36,340 aliens and they're more terrestrial than 2856 02:02:41,189 --> 02:02:39,579 we are you know that is actually more 2857 02:02:44,370 --> 02:02:41,199 than a theory because that was actually 2858 02:02:46,500 --> 02:02:44,380 written down 2,000 years 3000 years 2859 02:02:49,169 --> 02:02:46,510 before the Bible was ever written down 2860 02:02:52,229 --> 02:02:49,179 there in the Sumerian tablets and they 2861 02:02:56,129 --> 02:02:52,239 go into some detail as to how that these 2862 02:03:00,000 --> 02:02:56,139 Anunnaki these visitors from space took 2863 02:03:03,299 --> 02:03:00,010 the egg of a primitive earth woman okay 2864 02:03:06,750 --> 02:03:03,309 out of Africa apparently so maybe we 2865 02:03:09,120 --> 02:03:06,760 could call her Lucy and they impregnated 2866 02:03:12,959 --> 02:03:09,130 the egg with the sperm of an Anunnaki 2867 02:03:15,780 --> 02:03:12,969 male and then put the fertilized egg in 2868 02:03:18,089 --> 02:03:15,790 the womb of a Anunnaki female who 2869 02:03:22,080 --> 02:03:18,099 carried it to term and then through a 2870 02:03:25,290 --> 02:03:22,090 caesarean section delivered a healthy 2871 02:03:27,839 --> 02:03:25,300 breathing hybrid that was kind of cross 2872 02:03:31,290 --> 02:03:27,849 between these two and that they call the 2873 02:03:33,720 --> 02:03:31,300 atom or the Anna or the Adama all right 2874 02:03:35,790 --> 02:03:33,730 if that's true and since there is 2875 02:03:39,870 --> 02:03:35,800 evidence that there were these nonhumans 2876 02:03:42,510 --> 02:03:39,880 in the Earth's distance past and if 2877 02:03:46,709 --> 02:03:42,520 their account is true then no we were 2878 02:03:51,419 --> 02:03:46,719 not created by aliens but they did tweak 2879 02:03:54,330 --> 02:03:51,429 our DNA and improved the breed just like 2880 02:03:57,180 --> 02:03:54,340 we do with animals horses and sheep and 2881 02:04:13,020 --> 02:03:57,190 cows and dogs and cats Jim if they 2882 02:04:14,939 --> 02:04:13,030 improve the breed they've got one strike 2883 02:04:17,280 --> 02:04:14,949 that doesn't mean he's gonna be he's 2884 02:04:19,260 --> 02:04:17,290 smarter than any of the other cats you 2885 02:04:22,890 --> 02:04:19,270 just read him for certain things 2886 02:04:26,400 --> 02:04:22,900 yeah point though you know that's why on 2887 02:04:28,320 --> 02:04:26,410 my website Jim Marrs dot-com I ask the 2888 02:04:30,000 --> 02:04:28,330 question you know is there join me in 2889 02:04:40,410 --> 02:04:30,010 the search for intelligent life on the 2890 02:04:43,290 --> 02:04:40,420 planet Earth yeah you could be searching 2891 02:04:45,600 --> 02:04:43,300 for a long time then arguing that point 2892 02:04:47,790 --> 02:04:45,610 for for quite some time especially here 2893 02:04:50,790 --> 02:04:47,800 on the show search for intelligent life 2894 02:04:53,460 --> 02:04:50,800 just don't come here the fact that we 2895 02:04:56,550 --> 02:04:53,470 are so you know just tribal and 2896 02:04:58,860 --> 02:04:56,560 nationalistic and misogynist and and we 2897 02:05:00,180 --> 02:04:58,870 have these three outmoded religious 2898 02:05:02,790 --> 02:05:00,190 structures that people are still 2899 02:05:04,560 --> 02:05:02,800 clinging to that you know responsible 2900 02:05:07,380 --> 02:05:04,570 for billions of people being murdered on 2901 02:05:18,030 --> 02:05:07,390 the planet and look on the good side we 2902 02:05:19,560 --> 02:05:18,040 developed TV imagine okay well here's 2903 02:05:22,710 --> 02:05:19,570 some more questions the first question 2904 02:05:24,180 --> 02:05:22,720 was coming from a cz 709 to who's been 2905 02:05:26,910 --> 02:05:24,190 opposed to here for three years on the 2906 02:05:28,800 --> 02:05:26,920 pair of cast and techno mage is always 2907 02:05:32,070 --> 02:05:28,810 good for a few questions he's been a 2908 02:05:33,150 --> 02:05:32,080 poster at forum doctor para cast con for 2909 02:05:34,980 --> 02:05:33,160 five years now 2910 02:05:36,990 --> 02:05:34,990 and he's got he's got some good 2911 02:05:38,640 --> 02:05:37,000 questions here he's actually he's the 2912 02:05:40,440 --> 02:05:38,650 one that asked the Aurora Texas crash 2913 02:05:43,200 --> 02:05:40,450 question he's also wondering if you're 2914 02:05:45,120 --> 02:05:43,210 familiar with Walter Bosley's work and 2915 02:05:49,080 --> 02:05:45,130 his theory of the to breakaway 2916 02:05:51,870 --> 02:05:49,090 civilizations one this fairly old that 2917 02:05:54,870 --> 02:05:51,880 may be tied into the Sonora Aero Club 2918 02:05:57,360 --> 02:05:54,880 and the other being a German breakaway 2919 02:05:59,070 --> 02:05:57,370 civilization and his theory that that 2920 02:06:01,590 --> 02:05:59,080 these two breakaway civilizations are at 2921 02:06:04,770 --> 02:06:01,600 odds which is an interesting concept are 2922 02:06:06,300 --> 02:06:04,780 you familiar with this theory and where 2923 02:06:08,310 --> 02:06:06,310 do you come down about breakaway 2924 02:06:12,090 --> 02:06:08,320 civilizations actually starting back in 2925 02:06:14,160 --> 02:06:12,100 the 19th century well yes in fact I've 2926 02:06:16,890 --> 02:06:14,170 got a new book coming out called the 2927 02:06:19,290 --> 02:06:16,900 Illuminati which will go into that and 2928 02:06:21,000 --> 02:06:19,300 show that the foundation for a breakaway 2929 02:06:22,710 --> 02:06:21,010 civilization goes all the way back 2930 02:06:24,450 --> 02:06:22,720 through recording history right now 2931 02:06:26,340 --> 02:06:24,460 today I think there is a breakaway 2932 02:06:30,359 --> 02:06:26,350 civilization but I don't think it's a 2933 02:06:34,080 --> 02:06:30,369 split so cleanly along timelines of Nazi 2934 02:06:34,799 --> 02:06:34,090 or whatever I think it's it's the 1% 2935 02:06:38,939 --> 02:06:34,809 okay 2936 02:06:41,040 --> 02:06:38,949 there is a week of people who believe 2937 02:06:43,139 --> 02:06:41,050 themselves to be superior to everybody 2938 02:06:45,869 --> 02:06:43,149 else because of their blue blood and 2939 02:06:48,659 --> 02:06:45,879 because they can trace their heritage 2940 02:06:51,179 --> 02:06:48,669 and their ancestors all the way back to 2941 02:06:53,069 --> 02:06:51,189 again to the time of the end anak II I 2942 02:06:55,319 --> 02:06:53,079 think they live a whole entirely 2943 02:06:57,000 --> 02:06:55,329 different lifestyle than most of us 2944 02:06:59,819 --> 02:06:57,010 which makes them a breakaway 2945 02:07:01,619 --> 02:06:59,829 civilization I remember when George 2946 02:07:04,439 --> 02:07:01,629 Herbert Walker Bush was president they 2947 02:07:07,529 --> 02:07:04,449 they took him to a supermarket for a 2948 02:07:10,229 --> 02:07:07,539 photo op okay and the checkers running 2949 02:07:14,429 --> 02:07:10,239 the products across the scanner and it's 2950 02:07:17,790 --> 02:07:14,439 going bee bee bee and Bush says what's 2951 02:07:19,350 --> 02:07:17,800 that beeping sound okay see at that 2952 02:07:21,899 --> 02:07:19,360 level you didn't know what it was like 2953 02:07:23,819 --> 02:07:21,909 to shop in a supermarket he went there 2954 02:07:26,759 --> 02:07:23,829 for the photo op he he doesn't go to 2955 02:07:28,589 --> 02:07:26,769 supermarkets to shop people bring him 2956 02:07:30,899 --> 02:07:28,599 all this stuff he lives in an entirely 2957 02:07:33,839 --> 02:07:30,909 different lifestyle and so does George 2958 02:07:36,330 --> 02:07:33,849 Soros and so does the Koch brothers you 2959 02:07:39,689 --> 02:07:36,340 know and so does other multimillionaires 2960 02:07:40,859 --> 02:07:39,699 and probably including Trump okay they 2961 02:07:42,419 --> 02:07:40,869 don't worry they don't have to worry 2962 02:07:44,549 --> 02:07:42,429 about driving somewhere they don't have 2963 02:07:45,779 --> 02:07:44,559 to worry about getting a ticket they 2964 02:07:47,939 --> 02:07:45,789 don't have to worry about going to the 2965 02:07:50,310 --> 02:07:47,949 grocery store getting a haircut you know 2966 02:07:54,929 --> 02:07:50,320 all that's taken care of them yeah they 2967 02:07:56,250 --> 02:07:54,939 got gold toilets exactly okay so so 2968 02:07:57,959 --> 02:07:56,260 that's pretty much a breakaway 2969 02:08:00,270 --> 02:07:57,969 civilization because they don't let the 2970 02:08:01,649 --> 02:08:00,280 same way we do that's why that one of 2971 02:08:02,879 --> 02:08:01,659 the things we could do I think to 2972 02:08:05,569 --> 02:08:02,889 straighten things out in this country 2973 02:08:08,129 --> 02:08:05,579 real quick is to pass one more 2974 02:08:10,619 --> 02:08:08,139 constitutional amendment that says any 2975 02:08:16,139 --> 02:08:10,629 law passed by Congress applies to 2976 02:08:16,909 --> 02:08:16,149 Congress okay Congress has to get off of 2977 02:08:20,069 --> 02:08:16,919 their 2978 02:08:23,100 --> 02:08:20,079 gold-plated private retirement fund it 2979 02:08:25,080 --> 02:08:23,110 gives them their salary plus cost 2980 02:08:28,139 --> 02:08:25,090 increases for the rest of their life and 2981 02:08:30,389 --> 02:08:28,149 they got to go on Social Security hey if 2982 02:08:32,759 --> 02:08:30,399 we did that think how fast they would 2983 02:08:35,429 --> 02:08:32,769 clean up Social Security well I just 2984 02:08:40,709 --> 02:08:35,439 think we need more of a pitchfork and 2985 02:08:46,209 --> 02:08:44,680 the old Frankenstein syndrome you got a 2986 02:08:48,550 --> 02:08:46,219 baby yep 2987 02:08:52,180 --> 02:08:48,560 hey they've done a good job divide and 2988 02:08:54,970 --> 02:08:52,190 conquer keep everybody just real serious 2989 02:08:57,100 --> 02:08:54,980 demarcation between between the right in 2990 02:08:59,800 --> 02:08:57,110 the left you know it's people like me 2991 02:09:01,629 --> 02:08:59,810 we're kind of the benevolent anarchists 2992 02:09:04,959 --> 02:09:01,639 we want to who want to see us as 2993 02:09:06,609 --> 02:09:04,969 thorough a total you know breakdown 2994 02:09:09,669 --> 02:09:06,619 destruction of the system so we can 2995 02:09:11,379 --> 02:09:09,679 rebuild it properly for these times just 2996 02:09:13,359 --> 02:09:11,389 like Jefferson suggested we should do 2997 02:09:15,240 --> 02:09:13,369 but you know I'm not into violence I 2998 02:09:19,720 --> 02:09:15,250 think there's ways to do this 2999 02:09:21,490 --> 02:09:19,730 non-violently but what we do is fall in 3000 02:09:23,740 --> 02:09:21,500 the footsteps of Martin Luther King and 3001 02:09:26,500 --> 02:09:23,750 and Gandhi you know when they say okay 3002 02:09:33,459 --> 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02:14:58,570 --> 02:14:56,140 hi this is Joshua p1 author of the poor 3144 02:15:01,060 --> 02:14:58,580 man's paranormal and you're listening to 3145 02:15:14,100 --> 02:15:01,070 the podcast the gold standard of 3146 02:15:17,710 --> 02:15:14,110 paranormal radio so as I said Jim Marrs 3147 02:15:19,660 --> 02:15:17,720 even if we arm the people and I live in 3148 02:15:22,600 --> 02:15:19,670 Arizona so certainly there are are lots 3149 02:15:25,690 --> 02:15:22,610 and lots of weapons here we have access 3150 02:15:27,610 --> 02:15:25,700 to advanced technology from ET it's not 3151 02:15:30,070 --> 02:15:27,620 going to make a difference that's true 3152 02:15:31,300 --> 02:15:30,080 but that depends on who's using the 3153 02:15:34,360 --> 02:15:31,310 advanced technology 3154 02:15:37,090 --> 02:15:34,370 who's gonna benefit if there are any 3155 02:15:39,280 --> 02:15:37,100 jeez if they are have advanced weaponry 3156 02:15:40,840 --> 02:15:39,290 and if they are willing to share it with 3157 02:15:41,750 --> 02:15:40,850 us you really think they're gonna give 3158 02:15:44,610 --> 02:15:41,760 it to you 3159 02:15:48,670 --> 02:15:44,620 [Laughter] 3160 02:15:51,760 --> 02:15:48,680 present tense accepted I offer with wit 3161 02:15:59,050 --> 02:15:51,770 absconded with it I'm taking this you're 3162 02:16:00,520 --> 02:15:59,060 not taking this out with you what do you 3163 02:16:03,910 --> 02:16:00,530 mean I can't take mine all the other 3164 02:16:06,010 --> 02:16:03,920 guys are taking theirs that was the that 3165 02:16:07,540 --> 02:16:06,020 was the rationale that I would offer an 3166 02:16:10,090 --> 02:16:07,550 argument that I would gave to my mother 3167 02:16:13,480 --> 02:16:10,100 time and time again well mom everybody 3168 02:16:15,430 --> 02:16:13,490 else is doing it you know exactly what 3169 02:16:17,290 --> 02:16:15,440 her response was you know this is the 3170 02:16:18,820 --> 02:16:17,300 old classic she says well if everybody's 3171 02:16:22,420 --> 02:16:18,830 gonna go jump off the cliff are you 3172 02:16:26,020 --> 02:16:22,430 gonna go - exactly well hey welcome to 3173 02:16:28,420 --> 02:16:26,030 the the great American pubic yeah okay 3174 02:16:32,050 --> 02:16:28,430 this this is a question from a zz 7 or 9 3175 02:16:34,120 --> 02:16:32,060 - I am is quoted before he's asked 3176 02:16:36,940 --> 02:16:34,130 several questions here one is about dole 3177 02:16:39,100 --> 02:16:36,950 say in the Dulce base at the Hickory 3178 02:16:40,810 --> 02:16:39,110 Apache reservation in north-central New 3179 02:16:43,330 --> 02:16:40,820 Mexico and then the other is about 3180 02:16:44,650 --> 02:16:43,340 skinwalker ranch what what you think 3181 02:16:47,770 --> 02:16:44,660 about that where you come down on that 3182 02:16:50,610 --> 02:16:47,780 well where do you come down on some of 3183 02:16:53,440 --> 02:16:50,620 these fantastic underground alien base 3184 02:16:55,330 --> 02:16:53,450 theories and stories as opposed to the 3185 02:16:57,100 --> 02:16:55,340 conventional you know deep underground 3186 02:16:59,290 --> 02:16:57,110 military bases or dumbs or the 3187 02:17:00,240 --> 02:16:59,300 continuation of government facilities 3188 02:17:03,360 --> 02:17:00,250 which there 3189 02:17:05,900 --> 02:17:03,370 129 of Oh Mendez Richard solder probably 3190 02:17:08,129 --> 02:17:05,910 one of the top experts in that field has 3191 02:17:10,470 --> 02:17:08,139 disturbingly come up with is there's 3192 02:17:12,240 --> 02:17:10,480 absolutely no funding that he could find 3193 02:17:15,959 --> 02:17:12,250 in any appropriations bill in Congress 3194 02:17:17,910 --> 02:17:15,969 to fund 129 known deep underground 3195 02:17:19,860 --> 02:17:17,920 military an and continuation to 3196 02:17:22,049 --> 02:17:19,870 government facilities but that that's 3197 02:17:24,390 --> 02:17:22,059 one whole thing that we we kind of know 3198 02:17:27,390 --> 02:17:24,400 about but what about this whole Dulce 3199 02:17:29,250 --> 02:17:27,400 and skinwalker ranch and then you know 3200 02:17:30,600 --> 02:17:29,260 as soon as they disturb the ground and 3201 02:17:31,980 --> 02:17:30,610 all sorts of weird stuff starts 3202 02:17:35,160 --> 02:17:31,990 happening do you think there's some sort 3203 02:17:37,230 --> 02:17:35,170 of weird underground aspect to a lot of 3204 02:17:40,020 --> 02:17:37,240 this so-called paranormal pop culture 3205 02:17:41,640 --> 02:17:40,030 stuff yeah I do and muscle reason for 3206 02:17:43,379 --> 02:17:41,650 that is I've talked to me people who 3207 02:17:44,879 --> 02:17:43,389 claim that they have been in those 3208 02:17:46,589 --> 02:17:44,889 tunnels okay 3209 02:17:49,230 --> 02:17:46,599 and been in some of those bases I've 3210 02:17:51,299 --> 02:17:49,240 even visited some of myself you know I 3211 02:17:53,430 --> 02:17:51,309 haven't actually gone into the secret 3212 02:17:55,589 --> 02:17:53,440 down deep parts of them that I've been 3213 02:17:58,350 --> 02:17:55,599 in the entrances and seen where you 3214 02:18:00,750 --> 02:17:58,360 drive ho trucks through there okay so 3215 02:18:02,040 --> 02:18:00,760 yeah I think those existing and back to 3216 02:18:03,509 --> 02:18:02,050 your question about where they get the 3217 02:18:05,280 --> 02:18:03,519 money to pay for something like this 3218 02:18:07,830 --> 02:18:05,290 because obviously it's not in the 3219 02:18:09,480 --> 02:18:07,840 published budget alright but then wait a 3220 02:18:12,030 --> 02:18:09,490 minute let's stop and think 3221 02:18:15,509 --> 02:18:12,040 the day before 9/11 on September the 3222 02:18:17,520 --> 02:18:15,519 10th of 2001 Donald Rumsfeld's announced 3223 02:18:22,379 --> 02:18:17,530 that the Pentagon could not account for 3224 02:18:25,350 --> 02:18:22,389 two point three day that's up to like 3225 02:18:27,240 --> 02:18:25,360 eight trillion dollars and what oh they 3226 02:18:29,280 --> 02:18:27,250 were paying a thousand dollars for a 3227 02:18:31,980 --> 02:18:29,290 toilet seat and two thousand dollars for 3228 02:18:33,480 --> 02:18:31,990 a gold wrenching a trillion dollars 3229 02:18:35,730 --> 02:18:33,490 there's a lot of money that could fund 3230 02:18:38,790 --> 02:18:35,740 underground shelters and the space 3231 02:18:41,339 --> 02:18:38,800 program no how could they be missing a 3232 02:18:44,100 --> 02:18:41,349 trillion dollars when that is you know 3233 02:18:47,070 --> 02:18:44,110 multi times more than even this years 3234 02:18:49,169 --> 02:18:47,080 the entire defense budget so there's a 3235 02:18:52,200 --> 02:18:49,179 lot money missing through there and that 3236 02:18:54,030 --> 02:18:52,210 could go to these type things now as far 3237 02:18:57,770 --> 02:18:54,040 as Dulce and you know the War Between 3238 02:19:00,089 --> 02:18:57,780 the avians and the guys at dulcian and 3239 02:19:02,339 --> 02:19:00,099 skinwalker ranch and some of the stories 3240 02:19:06,390 --> 02:19:02,349 floating around for that that's in my 3241 02:19:08,160 --> 02:19:06,400 file okay and let me explain that when I 3242 02:19:10,290 --> 02:19:08,170 get a bit of information it goes 3243 02:19:12,790 --> 02:19:10,300 contrary to everything else not pretty 3244 02:19:16,209 --> 02:19:12,800 much know or think I know I just 3245 02:19:18,099 --> 02:19:16,219 Oh huh I don't buy into it lock stock 3246 02:19:22,000 --> 02:19:18,109 and barrel and I don't just immediately 3247 02:19:24,219 --> 02:19:22,010 discard it I put it in my file and then 3248 02:19:27,549 --> 02:19:24,229 I wait to see for further information 3249 02:19:29,259 --> 02:19:27,559 and as other information comes in I you 3250 02:19:30,849 --> 02:19:29,269 know you finally get enough to where you 3251 02:19:32,709 --> 02:19:30,859 can say well I don't think there's 3252 02:19:35,320 --> 02:19:32,719 anything to that you empty the whole 3253 02:19:36,910 --> 02:19:35,330 file into the wastebasket or you say oh 3254 02:19:39,099 --> 02:19:36,920 you know what I think there's really 3255 02:19:42,639 --> 02:19:39,109 something going on here in which case it 3256 02:19:44,709 --> 02:19:42,649 begins the file that Alexey Krita space 3257 02:19:46,990 --> 02:19:44,719 program that I keep throwing stuff into 3258 02:19:49,540 --> 02:19:47,000 you know to add to the think so 3259 02:19:51,460 --> 02:19:49,550 I think what you want to do is you don't 3260 02:19:53,349 --> 02:19:51,470 want to just buy into any of this 3261 02:19:55,960 --> 02:19:53,359 totally but you don't want to discard it 3262 02:19:56,440 --> 02:19:55,970 to do your research find out for 3263 02:20:02,230 --> 02:19:56,450 yourself 3264 02:20:04,570 --> 02:20:02,240 work with there's probably something 3265 02:20:06,280 --> 02:20:04,580 there or not yeah absolutely I agree I 3266 02:20:09,210 --> 02:20:06,290 went up to skinwalker ranch I was the 3267 02:20:12,910 --> 02:20:09,220 first investigator there I've spent many 3268 02:20:15,580 --> 02:20:12,920 many hours tramping around Dulce because 3269 02:20:17,400 --> 02:20:15,590 I lived very close to there making 3270 02:20:20,950 --> 02:20:17,410 inroads with Department of Public Safety 3271 02:20:23,230 --> 02:20:20,960 Chiefs and and stuff you know again 3272 02:20:25,929 --> 02:20:23,240 there's always the possibility of 3273 02:20:28,120 --> 02:20:25,939 alternative theories or rationales that 3274 02:20:30,730 --> 02:20:28,130 don't conform to some sort of alien base 3275 02:20:32,950 --> 02:20:30,740 theory which the alien base there is a 3276 02:20:35,380 --> 02:20:32,960 cover for more conventional theories to 3277 02:20:38,020 --> 02:20:35,390 hide nefarious things like the possible 3278 02:20:41,320 --> 02:20:38,030 burying of noxious nuclear waste from 3279 02:20:43,300 --> 02:20:41,330 Los Alamos up in Dulce there's other 3280 02:20:45,309 --> 02:20:43,310 possibilities that people should 3281 02:20:48,849 --> 02:20:45,319 entertain and they shouldn't go with a 3282 02:20:52,960 --> 02:20:48,859 knee-jerk you know just suspension of 3283 02:20:54,940 --> 02:20:52,970 disbelief and buy into aliens and it's 3284 02:20:57,849 --> 02:20:54,950 just a lot of it just actually is bad 3285 02:20:59,559 --> 02:20:57,859 science fiction in my book but moving it 3286 02:21:01,719 --> 02:20:59,569 along we're kind of running out of time 3287 02:21:04,450 --> 02:21:01,729 here's another interesting question I've 3288 02:21:07,000 --> 02:21:04,460 never really heard you talk about this 3289 02:21:08,500 --> 02:21:07,010 again comes with techno mage and this is 3290 02:21:11,349 --> 02:21:08,510 what do you think is a more likely 3291 02:21:13,120 --> 02:21:11,359 explanation for megalithic structures of 3292 02:21:15,280 --> 02:21:13,130 the ancient past do you think they were 3293 02:21:18,160 --> 02:21:15,290 ancient aliens involved or an advanced 3294 02:21:22,540 --> 02:21:18,170 lost civilization or I would add just 3295 02:21:23,470 --> 02:21:22,550 ingenue ingenuity by humans utilizing 3296 02:21:29,020 --> 02:21:23,480 their 3297 02:21:31,541 --> 02:21:29,030 think if you get dispassionately look at 3298 02:21:35,470 --> 02:21:31,551 history and look at what is now known 3299 02:21:38,470 --> 02:21:35,480 and look at all of the anomalies around 3300 02:21:41,020 --> 02:21:38,480 the world all of the artifacts all of 3301 02:21:42,371 --> 02:21:41,030 the cave drawings that depict saucers 3302 02:21:45,131 --> 02:21:42,381 and people look like they're in 3303 02:21:46,661 --> 02:21:45,141 spacesuits and everything else you go 3304 02:21:49,871 --> 02:21:46,671 back to the stories of the flying 3305 02:21:53,680 --> 02:21:49,881 dragons you go back to the Bahamas of 3306 02:21:55,390 --> 02:21:53,690 the Hindu writings the early Vedas where 3307 02:21:56,770 --> 02:21:55,400 they talked about the crafts that fly 3308 02:21:59,560 --> 02:21:56,780 through the air could destroy a whole 3309 02:22:01,600 --> 02:21:59,570 city with just one big blast you go to 3310 02:22:04,270 --> 02:22:01,610 Ezekiel as fiery will you go to the 3311 02:22:07,001 --> 02:22:04,280 Romans or flying shields and you know 3312 02:22:10,150 --> 02:22:07,011 the evidence and the argument for 3313 02:22:12,881 --> 02:22:10,160 prehistoric extraterrestrial visitors is 3314 02:22:14,591 --> 02:22:12,891 is quite compelling and in fact almost 3315 02:22:17,501 --> 02:22:14,601 overwhelming okay 3316 02:22:19,301 --> 02:22:17,511 so you can you just the only way you not 3317 02:22:21,730 --> 02:22:19,311 believe in that it's just not look at it 3318 02:22:24,011 --> 02:22:21,740 and not think about it looking at the 3319 02:22:26,470 --> 02:22:24,021 trial earth on stones 3320 02:22:29,501 --> 02:22:26,480 that's that make up the the base layer 3321 02:22:31,360 --> 02:22:29,511 of Baalbek for instance a thousand ton 3322 02:22:33,131 --> 02:22:31,370 stones it that we couldn't even live 3323 02:22:36,640 --> 02:22:33,141 today you think there is something 3324 02:22:38,560 --> 02:22:36,650 possibly you know otherworldly at work 3325 02:22:42,820 --> 02:22:38,570 that would allow for the construction of 3326 02:22:45,581 --> 02:22:42,830 such massive of single blocks of stone 3327 02:22:48,341 --> 02:22:45,591 well we can't do it today without 3328 02:22:49,900 --> 02:22:48,351 nothing in fact I I really really looked 3329 02:22:52,211 --> 02:22:49,910 into that because they were those 3330 02:22:55,001 --> 02:22:52,221 skeptics ago well we could always lift 3331 02:22:57,371 --> 02:22:55,011 something like that and no let me tell 3332 02:23:01,331 --> 02:22:57,381 you what I found those those massive 3333 02:23:04,810 --> 02:23:01,341 massive stones in Baalbek there are two 3334 02:23:06,730 --> 02:23:04,820 only two cranes in the entire world one 3335 02:23:10,301 --> 02:23:06,740 in England one and I think Germany in 3336 02:23:12,701 --> 02:23:10,311 Europe that 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you 3351 02:23:46,550 --> 02:23:43,529 see way back in the earliest writings as 3352 02:23:49,130 --> 02:23:46,560 being they that's been identified is 3353 02:23:51,290 --> 02:23:49,140 where one of the space facilities were 3354 02:23:56,450 --> 02:23:51,300 for the Annunaki so that's where 3355 02:24:00,019 --> 02:23:56,460 Gilgamesh and thank you we're going but 3356 02:24:03,769 --> 02:24:00,029 you need those thousands you know tons 3357 02:24:05,120 --> 02:24:03,779 stones so massive you know you wouldn't 3358 02:24:07,399 --> 02:24:05,130 want to do that for just building a 3359 02:24:10,849 --> 02:24:07,409 building there has to be another purpose 3360 02:24:13,790 --> 02:24:10,859 for that and being a platform for some 3361 02:24:16,750 --> 02:24:13,800 sort of space liftoff you know is as 3362 02:24:18,260 --> 02:24:16,760 plausible as anything that's impossible 3363 02:24:20,599 --> 02:24:18,270 announcements for you ladies and 3364 02:24:23,510 --> 02:24:20,609 gentlemen 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been suffering 3477 02:29:13,990 --> 02:29:12,590 from this condition of yours you are 3478 02:29:16,660 --> 02:29:14,000 sounding a little bit better a little 3479 02:29:18,900 --> 02:29:16,670 bit less hoarse as you progress I am I 3480 02:29:22,591 --> 02:29:18,910 guess if you don't use it you lose it 3481 02:29:26,070 --> 02:29:22,601 he's been lubricating his throat I wish 3482 02:29:29,620 --> 02:29:26,080 unfortunately I'm on a whole battery of 3483 02:29:31,680 --> 02:29:29,630 steroids and antibiotics and it's just 3484 02:29:35,580 --> 02:29:31,690 never ending I've been battling a 3485 02:29:40,350 --> 02:29:35,590 respiratory issue since I quit smoking 3486 02:29:44,890 --> 02:29:42,970 yeah right just quit smoking yo-yo 3487 02:29:46,421 --> 02:29:44,900 you'll find out about lung issues 3488 02:29:48,700 --> 02:29:46,431 yeah that's something else I'd like to 3489 02:29:49,841 --> 02:29:48,710 quickly mention here is that I'm old 3490 02:29:52,480 --> 02:29:49,851 enough to remember when they were 3491 02:29:54,850 --> 02:29:52,490 doctors and famous celebrities like 3492 02:29:56,410 --> 02:29:54,860 Lucille Ball and Humphrey Bogart and 3493 02:29:58,900 --> 02:29:56,420 they're on the TV they're on the radio 3494 02:30:02,230 --> 02:29:58,910 and they're saying smoke camels they're 3495 02:30:05,230 --> 02:30:02,240 good for you so I'm sure gene remembers 3496 02:30:06,640 --> 02:30:05,240 those so I mention that because today 3497 02:30:08,801 --> 02:30:06,650 everybody wants to know what was the 3498 02:30:11,140 --> 02:30:08,811 experts say was the experts saying hey 3499 02:30:13,540 --> 02:30:11,150 forget the experts they've been wrong so 3500 02:30:16,450 --> 02:30:13,550 many times in the past but you know then 3501 02:30:17,740 --> 02:30:16,460 just think for yourself they haven't 3502 02:30:31,360 --> 02:30:17,750 necessarily been wrong they've been 3503 02:30:34,180 --> 02:30:31,370 compromised and paid off exactly 3504 02:30:35,980 --> 02:30:34,190 well I also made the mistake when I was 3505 02:30:37,690 --> 02:30:35,990 I was doing great I mean I had I was 3506 02:30:40,000 --> 02:30:37,700 really well on the road to recovery and 3507 02:30:42,580 --> 02:30:40,010 I I went just for breakfast 3508 02:30:45,370 --> 02:30:42,590 for about a half hour 40 minutes in the 3509 02:30:47,711 --> 02:30:45,380 fort mcdowell casino in a restaurant 3510 02:30:49,511 --> 02:30:47,721 that was smoke-free and within an hour 3511 02:30:52,631 --> 02:30:49,521 and a half of being around all that 3512 02:30:55,421 --> 02:30:52,641 passive smoke I literally then fell back 3513 02:30:57,940 --> 02:30:55,431 into a lung infection I was just amazed 3514 02:31:00,551 --> 02:30:57,950 how quickly it happened and and it's you 3515 02:31:01,000 --> 02:31:00,561 know I've been battling it for almost a 3516 02:31:04,171 --> 02:31:01,010 week now 3517 02:31:06,461 --> 02:31:04,181 I am back on the path of recovery but 3518 02:31:08,890 --> 02:31:06,471 unfortunately I spent a week in the 3519 02:31:11,440 --> 02:31:08,900 hospital with pneumonia and influenza A 3520 02:31:15,761 --> 02:31:11,450 influenza A so it's been an interesting 3521 02:31:17,679 --> 02:31:15,771 beginning of the year for me the guy 3522 02:31:20,349 --> 02:31:17,689 went to the doctor and 3523 02:31:22,269 --> 02:31:20,359 with the cold and the doctor examined me 3524 02:31:24,309 --> 02:31:22,279 as he said okay doctor what I do he says 3525 02:31:26,590 --> 02:31:24,319 we gon take a hot bath and then stand in 3526 02:31:28,599 --> 02:31:26,600 front of the open window he says is that 3527 02:31:30,399 --> 02:31:28,609 gonna cure my cold and the doctor says 3528 02:31:35,679 --> 02:31:30,409 no but I give you a pneumonia and we can 3529 02:31:37,329 --> 02:31:35,689 cure pneumonia well actually you can't 3530 02:31:39,789 --> 02:31:37,339 cure pneumonia once you get it you never 3531 02:31:41,800 --> 02:31:39,799 lose it so that's a little bit of a 3532 02:31:44,050 --> 02:31:41,810 misnomer but at least they can treat 3533 02:31:46,719 --> 02:31:44,060 pneumonia wait a minute wait a minute 3534 02:31:49,599 --> 02:31:46,729 now when I was maybe 25 I had pneumonia 3535 02:31:51,010 --> 02:31:49,609 Chris was and now a hundred years later 3536 02:31:52,630 --> 02:31:51,020 I still have it 3537 02:31:54,309 --> 02:31:52,640 yeah it's dormant in your lungs same 3538 02:31:56,469 --> 02:31:54,319 with bronchitis once you get a lung 3539 02:31:58,959 --> 02:31:56,479 infection it all it does is go dormant 3540 02:32:03,309 --> 02:31:58,969 yeah that's true because I was in the 3541 02:32:08,709 --> 02:32:03,319 Army at Fort Dix New Jersey back in 1969 3542 02:32:12,429 --> 02:32:08,719 Cindy Fowler said the UFO landed there I 3543 02:32:13,059 --> 02:32:12,439 believe it and my lungs have never been 3544 02:32:16,059 --> 02:32:13,069 the same 3545 02:32:18,010 --> 02:32:16,069 no that's New Jersey I mean God that's 3546 02:32:19,649 --> 02:32:18,020 about toxic and environment as you can 3547 02:32:23,229 --> 02:32:19,659 get and and poor people that live there 3548 02:32:26,519 --> 02:32:23,239 not only was it cold and sleeting and 3549 02:32:30,459 --> 02:32:26,529 snowing but it was right near those 3550 02:32:33,449 --> 02:32:30,469 petroleum tanks refineries yeah yeah and 3551 02:32:35,889 --> 02:32:33,459 the state was terrible oh I know it's 3552 02:32:38,079 --> 02:32:35,899 well I'm glad I'm off the East Coast I 3553 02:32:40,090 --> 02:32:38,089 spent many years there and I'm now in 3554 02:32:42,069 --> 02:32:40,100 this a center of the exact center of 3555 02:32:44,109 --> 02:32:42,079 Arizona and the oldest American town and 3556 02:32:46,389 --> 02:32:44,119 you'd think that I'd be really super 3557 02:32:48,219 --> 02:32:46,399 healthy but I'm working on it I'm 3558 02:32:49,659 --> 02:32:48,229 working on it yeah energy follows 3559 02:32:51,880 --> 02:32:49,669 thought you have to have a positive 3560 02:32:55,659 --> 02:32:51,890 outcome and already lined up in order 3561 02:32:58,689 --> 02:32:55,669 for it to happen so and keep popping 3562 02:33:02,649 --> 02:32:58,699 massive amounts of vitamin C right right 3563 02:33:04,119 --> 02:33:02,659 and zinc too and magnesium yep all right 3564 02:33:06,699 --> 02:33:04,129 so let's see we got a couple of other 3565 02:33:08,649 --> 02:33:06,709 questions here this one comes from 3566 02:33:10,959 --> 02:33:08,659 Bisbee hi folk who spent a long long 3567 02:33:13,449 --> 02:33:10,969 time poster here at the para cast in 3568 02:33:16,090 --> 02:33:13,459 fact he's been posting as as long as 3569 02:33:19,149 --> 02:33:16,100 since you've been on the show back in 3570 02:33:22,479 --> 02:33:19,159 2010 and he's wondering what do you 3571 02:33:24,399 --> 02:33:22,489 think of the titanic's which story which 3572 02:33:26,769 --> 02:33:24,409 I'm not that familiar with but I know a 3573 02:33:29,560 --> 02:33:26,779 little bit about it is that a little bit 3574 02:33:31,150 --> 02:33:29,570 too over the top for discussion or 3575 02:33:33,400 --> 02:33:31,160 could there be something to it I 3576 02:33:35,890 --> 02:33:33,410 actually yeah when I first heard that 3577 02:33:37,720 --> 02:33:35,900 one you know yeah you know you because 3578 02:33:39,490 --> 02:33:37,730 that happened way back there now all my 3579 02:33:41,921 --> 02:33:39,500 life I've been told who's the story of 3580 02:33:44,801 --> 02:33:41,931 the Titanic so when it came up about 3581 02:33:47,591 --> 02:33:44,811 that sister ship whose name escapes me 3582 02:33:49,780 --> 02:33:47,601 at the moment anyway what I really I 3583 02:33:51,761 --> 02:33:49,790 looked into that and yes I think there's 3584 02:33:55,180 --> 02:33:51,771 something to that and against all the 3585 02:34:00,511 --> 02:33:55,190 money deal you know they they needed to 3586 02:34:04,810 --> 02:34:00,521 get that ship back in the service and 3587 02:34:06,461 --> 02:34:04,820 they so it just pulled a switcheroo is 3588 02:34:08,560 --> 02:34:06,471 nothing new if you go back and look at 3589 02:34:11,440 --> 02:34:08,570 the sinking of the Lusitania that was 3590 02:34:13,150 --> 02:34:11,450 basically arranged they news they did 3591 02:34:16,051 --> 02:34:13,160 not tell the captain of the crew that 3592 02:34:19,770 --> 02:34:16,061 they were going into sub infested waters 3593 02:34:23,261 --> 02:34:19,780 the Germans actually tried to publish 3594 02:34:24,730 --> 02:34:23,271 ads in fifty American newspapers saying 3595 02:34:28,900 --> 02:34:24,740 don't go because they're shipping 3596 02:34:30,850 --> 02:34:28,910 military munitions on the Lusitania you 3597 02:34:33,041 --> 02:34:30,860 know we can't allow that so it could be 3598 02:34:35,860 --> 02:34:33,051 fired upon you know since so don't go 3599 02:34:38,200 --> 02:34:35,870 and not only one paper somewhere I think 3600 02:34:39,640 --> 02:34:38,210 the st. Louis post-dispatch or somewhere 3601 02:34:41,770 --> 02:34:39,650 in the middle of country there are the 3602 02:34:44,280 --> 02:34:41,780 only ones that would run that ad and 3603 02:34:47,171 --> 02:34:44,290 then Churchill called off the 3604 02:34:49,480 --> 02:34:47,181 anti-submarine patrols Pearl Harbor 3605 02:34:52,091 --> 02:34:49,490 state deals Roosevelt cut off their all 3606 02:34:53,591 --> 02:34:52,101 supplies in the summer of 1941 pretty 3607 02:34:55,060 --> 02:34:53,601 much guaranteeing that they were gonna 3608 02:34:57,310 --> 02:34:55,070 have to move somewhere they're gonna 3609 02:34:59,350 --> 02:34:57,320 have to tax somebody to get some oil 3610 02:35:01,030 --> 02:34:59,360 then he got word that they were going to 3611 02:35:02,770 --> 02:35:01,040 attack Pearl Harbor but he didn't do 3612 02:35:05,770 --> 02:35:02,780 anything you allowed it to happen so 3613 02:35:08,530 --> 02:35:05,780 that a galvanized an irate American 3614 02:35:11,320 --> 02:35:08,540 public would unify and go into World War 3615 02:35:13,631 --> 02:35:11,330 two so it's nothing new it's just you 3616 02:35:16,801 --> 02:35:13,641 know most of what we think we know is 3617 02:35:21,671 --> 02:35:16,811 probably wrong sounds just like 9/11 3618 02:35:23,830 --> 02:35:21,681 exactly inside job well I'd love Joseph 3619 02:35:26,501 --> 02:35:23,840 Farrell's theory that Bush and Cheney 3620 02:35:29,890 --> 02:35:26,511 and the Cabal orchestrated the actual 3621 02:35:32,110 --> 02:35:29,900 plot by the the Arab Saudi hijackers and 3622 02:35:34,150 --> 02:35:32,120 then they were manipulated by an occult 3623 02:35:35,110 --> 02:35:34,160 group from the the one-percenters or 3624 02:35:37,950 --> 02:35:35,120 whatever you want to call them the 3625 02:35:41,260 --> 02:35:37,960 Illuminati who then manipulated them 3626 02:35:44,019 --> 02:35:41,270 much to their shock and horror 3627 02:35:46,750 --> 02:35:44,029 hence you know Bush looking like the 3628 02:35:48,550 --> 02:35:46,760 look on his face when he was told of the 3629 02:35:50,729 --> 02:35:48,560 first plane hitting the World Trade 3630 02:35:53,260 --> 02:35:50,739 Center while he's in the class with the 3631 02:35:56,229 --> 02:35:53,270 kindergartners reading the something 3632 02:35:58,899 --> 02:35:56,239 about a goat it was so appropriate and 3633 02:36:01,750 --> 02:35:58,909 the look on her face is priceless well I 3634 02:36:03,609 --> 02:36:01,760 guess not once but twice but Bush was 3635 02:36:06,069 --> 02:36:03,619 recorded as saying that before he 3636 02:36:08,859 --> 02:36:06,079 entered the school he saw the plane the 3637 02:36:11,080 --> 02:36:08,869 first plane hit the red Issa footage 3638 02:36:12,819 --> 02:36:11,090 he's a footage of the first plane he 3639 02:36:14,740 --> 02:36:12,829 said he saw it before he entered the 3640 02:36:16,719 --> 02:36:14,750 school nobody knew there was there was 3641 02:36:19,389 --> 02:36:16,729 nothing nobody was recording that one 3642 02:36:21,069 --> 02:36:19,399 the French team that recorded the plane 3643 02:36:23,920 --> 02:36:21,079 hit in the North Tower that was not 3644 02:36:26,319 --> 02:36:23,930 known to the public until the next 3645 02:36:28,029 --> 02:36:26,329 evening twice he says he saw the plane 3646 02:36:29,920 --> 02:36:28,039 hit the building and thought boy that 3647 02:36:32,080 --> 02:36:29,930 guy's a terrible pilot you know there's 3648 02:36:33,760 --> 02:36:32,090 been a big accident there before he went 3649 02:36:36,250 --> 02:36:33,770 in the school I wish somebody would 3650 02:36:38,620 --> 02:36:36,260 interrogate him about that well I can 3651 02:36:40,420 --> 02:36:38,630 also say that I heard Peter Jennings say 3652 02:36:42,160 --> 02:36:40,430 when they were trying to find out who 3653 02:36:44,260 --> 02:36:42,170 was actually in the White House at the 3654 02:36:46,750 --> 02:36:44,270 time he said George Herbert Walker Bush 3655 02:36:49,120 --> 02:36:46,760 was in the White House which I'd never 3656 02:36:51,790 --> 02:36:49,130 heard anybody else mention ever again 3657 02:36:54,279 --> 02:36:51,800 could that is dismissed speaking no no 3658 02:36:58,599 --> 02:36:54,289 no he was very very emphatic they knew 3659 02:37:00,370 --> 02:36:58,609 that w was down in Florida yeah because 3660 02:37:01,840 --> 02:37:00,380 he was so dumb he might have actually 3661 02:37:03,670 --> 02:37:01,850 done something to stop it 3662 02:37:05,979 --> 02:37:03,680 Jim Marrs please tell us where we can 3663 02:37:08,649 --> 02:37:05,989 find more of your stuff you get all my 3664 02:37:09,550 --> 02:37:08,659 books at any bookstore they'll order I 3665 02:37:11,950 --> 02:37:09,560 mean you give them in to Amazon 3666 02:37:15,819 --> 02:37:11,960 obviously or you go to my website Jim 3667 02:37:18,969 --> 02:37:15,829 Marrs com that's J I am ma RR s two R's 3668 02:37:23,019 --> 02:37:18,979 Mars Oh calm and you get all my books 3669 02:37:25,120 --> 02:37:23,029 also DVDs also a lot of stories that I 3670 02:37:26,830 --> 02:37:25,130 post they're not mine but there's stuff 3671 02:37:29,649 --> 02:37:26,840 that you're probably not going to see on 3672 02:37:31,809 --> 02:37:29,659 the mainstream corporate media so yeah I 3673 02:37:34,630 --> 02:37:31,819 would encourage everybody to go take a 3674 02:37:37,120 --> 02:37:34,640 look at Jim Marrs comm also go check out 3675 02:37:39,550 --> 02:37:37,130 Battlefield Earth dot-com and check out 3676 02:37:42,460 --> 02:37:39,560 that audio book it's really 3677 02:37:45,849 --> 02:37:42,470 extraordinary then go check a City of 3678 02:37:48,340 --> 02:37:45,859 Aurora Texas dot-com to see about me if 3679 02:37:53,050 --> 02:37:48,350 you might want to come down to Texas in 3680 02:37:54,849 --> 02:37:53,060 April 22nd for a day-long celebration of 3681 02:37:57,429 --> 02:37:54,859 the one hundred and twentieth year 3682 02:37:59,380 --> 02:37:57,439 the Aurora spaceship crash let me tell 3683 02:38:01,360 --> 02:37:59,390 our listeners also that you can find us 3684 02:38:03,550 --> 02:38:01,370 on Twitter as the power cast you can 3685 02:38:05,889 --> 02:38:03,560 find power cast fan clubs on Facebook 3686 02:38:08,200 --> 02:38:05,899 two of them and you could subscribe to 3687 02:38:11,410 --> 02:38:08,210 the power cast plus get the after the 3688 02:38:14,050 --> 02:38:11,420 power cast podcast which is an exclusive 3689 02:38:15,790 --> 02:38:14,060 feature of the power cast plus we also 3690 02:38:18,070 --> 02:38:15,800 offer a commercial free version of this 3691 02:38:20,800 --> 02:38:18,080 show and other benefits with prices 3692 02:38:26,469 --> 02:38:20,810 starting at just a dollar forty nine 3693 02:38:31,330 --> 02:38:26,479 each week go to plus PL us dot the para 3694 02:38:35,410 --> 02:38:31,340 cast com that's th EP AR ACA st.com 3695 02:38:38,650 --> 02:38:35,420 plus dot the para cast com this was as 3696 02:38:41,020 --> 02:38:38,660 usual fun Jim Marrs thanks for joining 3697 02:38:42,969 --> 02:38:41,030 us in the para cast well thank you so 3698 02:38:46,030 --> 02:38:42,979 much it's great to be back with you Jean 3699 02:38:47,530 --> 02:38:46,040 and and Chris who's real delight and 3700 02:38:50,990 --> 02:38:47,540 talking to you you've obviously done 3701 02:39:03,230 --> 02:38:51,000 your homework oh yeah 3702 02:39:09,631 --> 02:39:06,751 the para cast featuring gene Steinberg 3703 02:39:12,650 --> 02:39:09,641 and Christopher O'Brien is a copyrighted 3704 02:39:16,381 --> 02:39:12,660 presentation of making the impossible